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The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian vio
by rafale 5y ago
The title doesn't specify the perpetrator is white and doesn't mention white supremacy. It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence. If someone saw the video, can you please confirm my hunch?
- cantsayit 5y agoThe video is at the bottom of the article and yes, it's a group of black people attacking the Asian driver. This could have nothing at all to do with the recent treatment of police officers who respond to violent black criminals over the last year. Nope. No chance. Ok flag my post now
- haram_masala 5y agoThere was a screenshot of the video, and sadly your hunch is correct.
- bpodgursky 5y agoYou can click through to watch it on Twitter (and yes, that is what happened).
- throw179804 5y agoTwitter link (with video, not taken down) https://twitter.com/vincentkangnow/status/1393449340497244161 https://twitter.com/vincentkangnow/status/139344934049724416...
- temp8964 5y agoIf the title mentions the race, the post would have been flagged much faster.
- ergocoder 5y agoAt this point, Asians should stop supporting BLM. No BLM influencers (e.g. Trevor Noah) criticize blacks on Asians violence. One time they criticized is when it was white killing Asian (you can look it up). If BLM happens, Asian people, please, just be against it. Nobody would help you when you are attacked by black. Blacks do not stand with asians
- xmprt 5y agoLet's not play minority Olympics. Everyone's problems are equally valid and by advocating for one you're advocating for all.
- threevox 5y agoA bit of a false equivalence, not to mention a tired trope
- lmm 5y ago> Everyone's problems are equally valid and by advocating for one you're advocating for all. This is very much false. Many of the things done to treat one group's problems increase the problems for other groups (e.g. reduced policing in this case).
- dokem 5y agoIf you're going to disregard my problems I'm not going to listen to yours. How about that?
- ergocoder 5y agoSounds fine on both sides. I prefer not dying or being punched for no reason. Asians please stop supporting BLM. By doing so, you are hurting other Asians. Nobody will help you when you are attacked by black.
- sol_invictus 5y agoDoes black-on-asian violence have some kind of special status in comparison to black-on-any-other-skin-color violence?
- alephnan 5y agoNo, but Asian people have been on the receiving end of hate crimes more recently
- tartoran 5y agoAbsolutely, especially post Covid I've seen several senseless random attacks on Asians regardless of nationality or origins. I hope it's just a passing thing which was fueled by Trump. I feel for them. I feel for all folks whose mere look renders them targets for hate crimes. I really thought we put that behind but recently, during the past 5 years I realized how wrong I was.
- JPKab 5y agoCan you please point to some of the recent attacks that you think were perpetrated by Trump supporters? I wasn't aware he had a large base in Oakland.
- tartoran 5y agoSeveral attacks on asians in the last couple of months in New York suggest that there is a problem related to Trump followers, fans, whatever you want to call them. Several were caught that’s why I drew this conclusion. If you remember Trump stirred a lot of hate in this country and while these sentiments didn’t start with Trump, he certainly brought them to the surface.
- malandrew 5y agocan you provide at least anecdotal examples of attacks committed by trump supporters?
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- nemothekid 5y ago>It can only mean one thing, the elephant in the room, black-on-asian violence Is there anywhere I can read about this elephant in the room? I'm not sure why the label is important here; is the implication that black people are ideologically motivated to attack Asians? Are you sure this was a hate crime (the driver was attacked because was Asian) or a crime of oppurtunity (the driver was attacked because he was an easy target)? Unless you are sure it was the former, the rhetoric sounds awfully close to the 13/52 dog whistle.
- casefields 5y agoIt's what some would call Coulter's Corollary: >Named after a 2015 tweet from provocative conservative political commentator, Ann Coulter, Coulter's Law states that the longer it takes the news media to identify a mass shooter in the United States, the less likely it is to be a white male.
- nemothekid 5y agoThat seems like a useless corollary, nor does it answer my question. I can't tell if you are intentionally trying to erase the motivations and replace them with skin color. There is an ideological difference between a white teenager shooting up a black church and a black teenager shooting a gang. Only in one did race play a motivation in the shooting. Coming back to my point, the GP is claiming there is an ideologically motivated uptick in crime where black people, specifically, are attacking asians. I'm not even arguing that he might be wrong, but I'm seeing this trope a lot more and I want to find out if there's any actual theory behind it or if I'm just going to find more 13/52.
- arionhardison 5y agoYes, this is HN so you are 100% correct. Asians and whites are the majority here so blacks are constantly demonized even though anti-blackness is literally a fundamental part of asian culture. HN has a very "high-brow" intelligent crowd, if this was reddit they would just go ahead and use a slur. Intrestengly enough, even though this comment will be down voted and flagged, my asian friends are the ones that explained these things to me. Here is a video one of my asian friends sent to me, its a bit long but actually quite informative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXo2ub_nZFc&t=1s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXo2ub_nZFc&t=1s Unlike in America, its actually 100% accepted and seen as the norm to be "anti-black": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few8kJ0zfnY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Few8kJ0zfnY. This is also why Asia/India are the largest market for skin lightning cream. Objectively, I find it quite fascinating and it was very interesting for me to learn about. The book: Blacks And Asians: Crossings, Conflict And Commonality goes much deeper into the topic if you are interested.
- hintymad 5y agoI so wish American people learn a little history. Seeking narrative instead of truth always led to deceit, fiefdom, and atrocity.
- dokem 5y agoYou're only saying that because the person is black and not white.
- hintymad 5y agoMind reading is a typical example of not seeking facts. You know the US was the lighthouse of education when I was in school? My teacher used the US as an example to show how important it is to be truth-seeking and to avoid logical fallacies like this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Appeal_to_motive https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ad_hominem#Appeal_to_motive? Oh well, I guess attacking one's motive just serves all the progressives so well.
- juandora 5y agoDo you have any specific relevant recommended history reads? I'm on a history bender and would welcome suggestions.
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- kenjackson 5y agoPeople said the same thing about the Asian spa attacks. And then the perp wasn’t black. Sometimes the race just isn’t mentioned, not a grand conspiracy.
- rafale 5y agoIt was though. CNN had a big capital letters headline with white supremacy on it.
- kenjackson 5y agoThe first day or so there was no mention of race in most places. Go look on Reddit. You saw the same things said, "No mention of race... I wonder what that means... must not fit the narrative". Then when the race came out it then these same people said, "It isn't about race, but he had sex issues".
- kenjackson 5y agoAlso the shooting in Cali today. No one is talking about race. Let’s see what race he ends up being.
- s9w 5y agoUnexpected and rare nugget of truth