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Personally I feel that the engineers at YouTube are doing a good job for me and I would like to reward them for that.

by saas_sam 5y ago

sofixa 5y ago
Not to mention the people that worked to create the videos. Both them and the engineers deserve to eat.
- Scoundreller 5y ago
  Well, not anymore for the small publishers. Now they’re subsidizing the big publishers.
- mbirth 5y ago
  Unpopular opinion, but one might argue YouTube was a better place when people did videos out of passion and not to become an "influencer" and get money.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    That's still the case though. YT is probably the only platform where you can be successful doing very niche without having to sell out or churn out influencer tier content for outreach. The revenue stream is embedded, the audience is huge and channels can be pretty well siloed (as opposed to say, reddit where you can have a niche community either get easily overrun, crossposted etc). Actually the only time I've had "influencer/Drama" type of content was when I chose to watch it, otherwise YouTube is still pretty good at not pushing content you just don't watch at all to your recommendations (Even though the recommendation system is overall awful and I can't believe an army of engineers have actually been working on it for a decade, but I digress)
  - sofixa 5y ago
    Most people don't make (enough) money from YouTube though, and to get to the point where they could, they spend hundreds of hours of their time. I'd say that's passion and i see nothing wrong with getting rewarded for doing something you like and other people enjoy watching.
    - mbirth 5y ago
      > and to get to the point where they could, they spend hundreds of hours of their time However, this often results in videos that are unnecessary bloated to fulfil the requirements to place more ads, deceptive/misleading titles, or 10-minute-videos about something that could be explained in 30 seconds.
- jjav 5y ago
  I don't mind ads in content by creators who are getting revenue from it. It maintains many interesting channels. But ads on content where all the revenue goes to google without a penny being sent to the creator? That's not tolerable.
rasz 5y ago
Do they now? Before Polymer (current YT framework) YT video page weighted somewhere around 50KB (10KB compressed) and was ordinary HTML + 1MB js player (400KB compressed). As soon as HTML part loaded the page was all there. Now its 600KB (100KB compressed) JSON + additional 8MB desktop_polymer.js (1MB compressed) that needs to be compiled/interpreted before anything starts showing on the page - its all dynamically generated Client side. 1MB js player is on top of that.

Personally I feel that the engineers at YouTube are doing a good job for me and I would like to reward them for that.

sofixa 5y ago

Not to mention the people that worked to create the videos. Both them and the engineers deserve to eat.

Scoundreller 5y ago
Well, not anymore for the small publishers. Now they’re subsidizing the big publishers.
mbirth 5y ago
Unpopular opinion, but one might argue YouTube was a better place when people did videos out of passion and not to become an "influencer" and get money.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  That's still the case though. YT is probably the only platform where you can be successful doing very niche without having to sell out or churn out influencer tier content for outreach. The revenue stream is embedded, the audience is huge and channels can be pretty well siloed (as opposed to say, reddit where you can have a niche community either get easily overrun, crossposted etc). Actually the only time I've had "influencer/Drama" type of content was when I chose to watch it, otherwise YouTube is still pretty good at not pushing content you just don't watch at all to your recommendations (Even though the recommendation system is overall awful and I can't believe an army of engineers have actually been working on it for a decade, but I digress)
- sofixa 5y ago
  Most people don't make (enough) money from YouTube though, and to get to the point where they could, they spend hundreds of hours of their time. I'd say that's passion and i see nothing wrong with getting rewarded for doing something you like and other people enjoy watching.
  - mbirth 5y ago
    > and to get to the point where they could, they spend hundreds of hours of their time However, this often results in videos that are unnecessary bloated to fulfil the requirements to place more ads, deceptive/misleading titles, or 10-minute-videos about something that could be explained in 30 seconds.
jjav 5y ago
I don't mind ads in content by creators who are getting revenue from it. It maintains many interesting channels. But ads on content where all the revenue goes to google without a penny being sent to the creator? That's not tolerable.

rasz 5y ago

Do they now? Before Polymer (current YT framework) YT video page weighted somewhere around 50KB (10KB compressed) and was ordinary HTML + 1MB js player (400KB compressed). As soon as HTML part loaded the page was all there. Now its 600KB (100KB compressed) JSON + additional 8MB desktop_polymer.js (1MB compressed) that needs to be compiled/interpreted before anything starts showing on the page - its all dynamically generated Client side. 1MB js player is on top of that.