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I worry that you're worried about a group of people freely participating in activities that could lead to further mutations of viruses that could spread to peop

I worry that you're worried about a group of people freely participating in activities that could lead to further mutations of viruses that could spread to people. It's a bit of paranoia and maybe even unconscious bias against the group mentioned you're not aware of. Heterosexual unsafe sex is just as likely to lead to virus mutations and it's certainly a higher proportion of the population, yet you choose to point out gay males in particular?

anotherv 5y ago
I've never known a woman to take prep that isn't a sex worker. Where as I know plenty's of gay blokes do. Maybe drop the gay card..
- BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
  This appears to be a discussion about the dangers of rampant unsafe sex, not about prep. I know tons of straight men and women who have unsafe sex.
delecti 5y ago
It's vastly less likely to transmit HIV to the penetrative partner, so the fact that it's possible for gay males to perform both roles makes it more likely to spread. It's oversimplifying, but it's not wildly off base.
- anotherv 5y ago
  You are letting the facts get in the way here of a "cause"
- girvo 5y ago
  Right, but isn't this dicussion about _other_ viruses, not HIV (due to PrEP)?
  - hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
    The same could be said for the pill and heterosexuals, no?
    - girvo 5y ago
      People do make that argument, yeah. I’m not well versed in the subject of heterosexual or homosexual sexual statistics to opine on either, I just wanted to clarify what was being discussed :)
redis_mlc 5y ago
@tedk-42 what you wrote is almost identical to what gay apologists wrote at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic. They were wrong, and millions died. Instead of reacting in a hysterical manner to alleged "unconscious bias", I suggest you turn your attention to educating the community you're defending. That would save lives.
Dma54rhs 5y ago
It's not paranoia since people who engage dangerous acts are also danger to society, just like drunk driving or the corona deniers. Just because the group were talking about is gay men doesn't mean the same doesn't apply. I've yet to met a gay men who disagrees and vast majority of them think it's problematic.

anotherv 5y ago

I've never known a woman to take prep that isn't a sex worker. Where as I know plenty's of gay blokes do. Maybe drop the gay card..

BugsJustFindMe 5y ago
This appears to be a discussion about the dangers of rampant unsafe sex, not about prep. I know tons of straight men and women who have unsafe sex.

delecti 5y ago

It's vastly less likely to transmit HIV to the penetrative partner, so the fact that it's possible for gay males to perform both roles makes it more likely to spread. It's oversimplifying, but it's not wildly off base.

anotherv 5y ago
You are letting the facts get in the way here of a "cause"
girvo 5y ago
Right, but isn't this dicussion about _other_ viruses, not HIV (due to PrEP)?
- hsbauauvhabzb 5y ago
  The same could be said for the pill and heterosexuals, no?
  - girvo 5y ago
    People do make that argument, yeah. I’m not well versed in the subject of heterosexual or homosexual sexual statistics to opine on either, I just wanted to clarify what was being discussed :)

redis_mlc 5y ago

@tedk-42 what you wrote is almost identical to what gay apologists wrote at the beginning of the AIDS epidemic. They were wrong, and millions died. Instead of reacting in a hysterical manner to alleged "unconscious bias", I suggest you turn your attention to educating the community you're defending. That would save lives.

Dma54rhs 5y ago

It's not paranoia since people who engage dangerous acts are also danger to society, just like drunk driving or the corona deniers. Just because the group were talking about is gay men doesn't mean the same doesn't apply. I've yet to met a gay men who disagrees and vast majority of them think it's problematic.