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Don't let people enter their data onto your side projects unless you're willing to treat it responsibly?
by sealeck 5y ago
Don't let people enter their data onto your side projects unless you're willing to treat it responsibly?
- jchw 5y agoIntent doesn’t matter; the fear is the same: life-destroying fines. If that’s the choice, I’d just opt out of taking EU customers.
- Hamuko 5y agoHow many examples of life-destroying fines do you have?
- jchw 5y agoSo basically, you’re in the “No, it’s fine — this will only ever get used against bad guys!” camp. We had 9/11 here in America and the BS that followed and I don’t humor this line of thinking. (Nor humour.)
- Hamuko 5y agoNo, I'm in the "prove that the thing you are claiming to happen actually happens" camp.
- jchw 5y agoI’m not claiming something happened — do you understand how chilling effects work? The threat of potentially massive fines with very little legal bounds for not following regulations that individuals basically can’t follow means that people who want to follow the rules but aren’t big enough don’t play anymore.
- Hamuko 5y agoSo no one's life has ever been ruined by the GDPR? But you're still sure that this will happen? What is this based on?
- jchw 5y agoI can get fined between 0 and €20 million at any moment because I am an individual and have no means to fully understand GDPR nor hire a DPO for my stupid personal websites. I make no money in ads or otherwise, but I am still treated like Epic Games if I collect sign up emails or logs. I only still run this stuff now because I’ve been running it for over a decade. I can tell you right now I am hesitant to run websites anymore. If you don’t understand how “ambiguous threat of a fine” isn’t calmed by “it hasn’t happened yet,” I can’t help you. What if my site was politically controversial? Should I trust all EU governments to act responsibly and not take advantage of their power ever?
- anoncake 5y agoIf there is a real danger that EU gouvernments start abusing their power like that, why is it only Americans that are afraid of it? Not EU citizens, who actually are familiar with how their states behave?
- jchw 5y agoClearly, nobody is afraid by it: I am getting buried insanely any time I criticize GDPR in any way. It is a thing you are not allowed to critique on HN. So I wouldn’t say americans are particularly more bothered by it. But why shouldn’t we be? I have no representation in EU law.
- anoncake 5y ago> Clearly, nobody is afraid by it: I am getting buried insanely any time I criticize GDPR in any way. It is a thing you are not allowed to critique on HN. Not if your criticisms are entirely unfounded and bordering on paranoia, no. > But why shouldn't we be? I have no representation in EU law. What? Do you think only EU citizens have rights in the EU?
- tgsovlerkhgsel 5y agoCan you show me one example where there was a "life-destroying" fine? Not "a big company was fined an amount of money that would be life destroying if I had to pay it for a personal project", because revenue/economic means are a key factor in GDPR fine calculation.
- anoncake 5y agoMaybe it doesn't in America. Here it does.