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And yet, GDPR considers IP address personal data. As long as there are stupid things written in laws and directives, we can expect the judicial branch issue stu

And yet, GDPR considers IP address personal data. As long as there are stupid things written in laws and directives, we can expect the judicial branch issue stupid rulings.

Ensorceled 5y ago
My name is personal data. A bank robber can say "Hands up, this is Ensorceled, hand over your money or die." but that should not be proof I did the crime. Same with IP addresses, THEY ARE PERSONAL DATA. Ad tech companies routinely use IPs for tracking and identification.
ad404b8a372f2b9 5y ago
This is a completely different matter with entirely different goals and implications. GDPR takes the hardest stance on what is and is not personal data for the sake of consumer protection. If a company had the IP of this couple they could link their online activity (most of which is their own) with their name, that's sufficient to spy on them. If you'd eaten chips this morning and there was a database of chip-eaters, eating chips would be considered personal information. It's tiring to see these uninformed hot takes on GDPR on completely unrelated subjects.
- quicksilver03 5y ago
  > If a company had the IP of this couple they could link their online activity (most of which is their own) with their name, that's sufficient to spy on them. If "most" of their online activity is their own, then some of it coming from "their" IP address isn't. You can pretend to be able to identify a person behind an IP address, but that doesn't make it true.
  - IanCal 5y ago
    My name is personal data even though it's not unique, and my physical address is too even though I don't live alone.
pbhjpbhj 5y ago
IP address might be part of a proof based on balance of probabilities (used in Civil law cases, torts like copyright/trespass) but is unlikely to be useful in proving 'behind reasonable doubt' (ie in a criminal case), IMO, it might lead to something that provides such proof though.

And yet, GDPR considers IP address personal data. As long as there are stupid things written in laws and directives, we can expect the judicial branch issue stupid rulings.

Ensorceled 5y ago

My name is personal data. A bank robber can say "Hands up, this is Ensorceled, hand over your money or die." but that should not be proof I did the crime. Same with IP addresses, THEY ARE PERSONAL DATA. Ad tech companies routinely use IPs for tracking and identification.

ad404b8a372f2b9 5y ago

This is a completely different matter with entirely different goals and implications. GDPR takes the hardest stance on what is and is not personal data for the sake of consumer protection. If a company had the IP of this couple they could link their online activity (most of which is their own) with their name, that's sufficient to spy on them. If you'd eaten chips this morning and there was a database of chip-eaters, eating chips would be considered personal information. It's tiring to see these uninformed hot takes on GDPR on completely unrelated subjects.

quicksilver03 5y ago
> If a company had the IP of this couple they could link their online activity (most of which is their own) with their name, that's sufficient to spy on them. If "most" of their online activity is their own, then some of it coming from "their" IP address isn't. You can pretend to be able to identify a person behind an IP address, but that doesn't make it true.
- IanCal 5y ago
  My name is personal data even though it's not unique, and my physical address is too even though I don't live alone.

pbhjpbhj 5y ago

IP address might be part of a proof based on balance of probabilities (used in Civil law cases, torts like copyright/trespass) but is unlikely to be useful in proving 'behind reasonable doubt' (ie in a criminal case), IMO, it might lead to something that provides such proof though.