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> With how much we know about implicit bias causing so many problems in equity for things like promotions and opportunity in the workplace Researchers haven't

> With how much we know about implicit bias causing so many problems in equity for things like promotions and opportunity in the workplace Researchers haven't found a link between implicit bias and behavior. [1] From the abstract: "No causal relationship: Implicit bias doesn't affect behavior at all." Is there more recent research that contradicts this? 1: https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190802144415.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/08/190802144415.h...

msrenee 5y ago
Do you have a link to the actual paper? This is essentially a news article about a paper that was not published when this article was written.
- crackercrews 5y ago
  https://doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspa0000160 https://doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspa0000160
  - msrenee 5y ago
    That quote you pulled about there being no causal relationship is from a list of 4 possible reasons they didn't find a relationship. That's not a claim they were making. It's one of a few proposed explanations for the data. Talk about taking something out of context.
taurath 5y ago
Absolutely, and you’ll find many other studies that contradict the above. Plus good old fashioned common sense. Here’s a meta review. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191308509000239 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01913...
- crackercrews 5y ago
  That's not more recent, it's a decade older than the meta analysis showing that there are not material behavioral effects.
  - disgruntledphd2 5y ago
    If by material, you mean less than d=0.3, then you appear to be correct. It's gonna be really difficult to estimate reliable effects from a meta-analysis of such disparate studies, which is normally the case in psychology. Anyway, it would make sense that cognitive interventions are more effective, as this would suggest that a lot of implicit biases represent pre-conscious reactions (which is interesting in and of itself).
    - msrenee 5y ago
      Don't worry, if you read even the just article he linked, you'll realize that the quote he pulled is out of a list of multiple reasons their metastudy did not come up with conclusive results. There's a list of possibilities, and there not being a correlation is a possibility, but due to the nature of metastudies, they are not willing to make that statement.
      - msrenee 5y ago
        *multiple possible reasons.
- rimliu 5y ago
  Common sense tells us that the Earth is flat and ths Sun rotates around it. Just look outside, is it not obvious?

msrenee 5y ago

Do you have a link to the actual paper? This is essentially a news article about a paper that was not published when this article was written.

crackercrews 5y ago
https://doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspa0000160 https://doi.apa.org/doiLanding?doi=10.1037%2Fpspa0000160
- msrenee 5y ago
  That quote you pulled about there being no causal relationship is from a list of 4 possible reasons they didn't find a relationship. That's not a claim they were making. It's one of a few proposed explanations for the data. Talk about taking something out of context.

taurath 5y ago

Absolutely, and you’ll find many other studies that contradict the above. Plus good old fashioned common sense. Here’s a meta review. https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0191308509000239 https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S01913...

crackercrews 5y ago
That's not more recent, it's a decade older than the meta analysis showing that there are not material behavioral effects.
- disgruntledphd2 5y ago
  If by material, you mean less than d=0.3, then you appear to be correct. It's gonna be really difficult to estimate reliable effects from a meta-analysis of such disparate studies, which is normally the case in psychology. Anyway, it would make sense that cognitive interventions are more effective, as this would suggest that a lot of implicit biases represent pre-conscious reactions (which is interesting in and of itself).
  - msrenee 5y ago
    Don't worry, if you read even the just article he linked, you'll realize that the quote he pulled is out of a list of multiple reasons their metastudy did not come up with conclusive results. There's a list of possibilities, and there not being a correlation is a possibility, but due to the nature of metastudies, they are not willing to make that statement.
    - msrenee 5y ago
      *multiple possible reasons.
rimliu 5y ago
Common sense tells us that the Earth is flat and ths Sun rotates around it. Just look outside, is it not obvious?