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The main thing is these are not "hot tubs" they are indoors, in a normal room, an apartment, in a kiddies play pool, with kiddies inflatable equipment. The wate

The main thing is these are not "hot tubs" they are indoors, in a normal room, an apartment, in a kiddies play pool, with kiddies inflatable equipment. The water is, additionally, cold and a few inches deep. No-one in the world does this type of activity privately or in public. It's so obviously soft core pornography and way away from the sensible "appropriate behaviour and clothing rules" that it's absurd. Now there is the debate about sexuality and sex work. This is not applicable here. Amazon's Twitch is saying it's not sex work. One sure fire thought experiment is that, if it's not porn, would you be okay with a 13 yr old (the age limit on twitch) doing it? To give credit to Amazon's Twitch they are dammned whatever they do.

soared 5y ago
Twitch is certainly aware of your argument because it’s true. Twitch doesn’t think there are actually hot tubs in peoples living rooms. They know it’s basically soft core porn. They’re definitely not going to call it that. But they’ll separate it out from the rest of their content and let users and advertisers opt out of it.
- degenerate 5y ago
  I think this is the best option, at least for now. Shove all of these streamers into one category so they are now compete against each other. Previously, you could choose any game or category and scroll down until you inevitably found a streamer in a bikini. Now the entire category is bikinis, so there is a lot less uniqueness to their stream. It's a good solution to a problem that might go away on its own with the new rule.
ilaksh 5y ago
Well, the one I was just watching was definitely hot water and pretty deep. PCgamer is at this moment streaming Geralt taking a bath in the Hot Tubs category. Lol.
ClumsyPilot 5y ago
"if it's not porn, would you be okay with a 13 yr old (the age limit on twitch) doing it?" That's about the age people discover porn, so the test doesn't work.
- hervature 5y ago
  They are talking about actually streaming. Would you be comfortable allowing a 13 year old girl in a bikini playing in an indoor inflatable pool that changes bikinis every 50 subs? The content is public, you can watch any stream without logging in.
  - ClumsyPilot 5y ago
    Right, that's ofcourse different, but is that the right test? "X is being done and filmed by an adult, and kids have access to this platform, would you be comfortable with a teenager doing the same?" I can also think of a number of potentially dangerous activities, unrelated to sexual stuff, that would be appropriate for an adult to stream but not a kid.
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slightwinder 5y ago
> The main thing is these are not "hot tubs" they are indoors, in a normal room, an apartment, in a kiddies play pool, with kiddies inflatable equipment. Some are, some not. There are Hot Tub-Streams in Gardes, Pools, beachs. And the whole thing did not even start with Hot Tubs. In the beginning it was just people on their bed.

soared 5y ago

Twitch is certainly aware of your argument because it’s true. Twitch doesn’t think there are actually hot tubs in peoples living rooms. They know it’s basically soft core porn. They’re definitely not going to call it that. But they’ll separate it out from the rest of their content and let users and advertisers opt out of it.

degenerate 5y ago
I think this is the best option, at least for now. Shove all of these streamers into one category so they are now compete against each other. Previously, you could choose any game or category and scroll down until you inevitably found a streamer in a bikini. Now the entire category is bikinis, so there is a lot less uniqueness to their stream. It's a good solution to a problem that might go away on its own with the new rule.

ilaksh 5y ago

Well, the one I was just watching was definitely hot water and pretty deep. PCgamer is at this moment streaming Geralt taking a bath in the Hot Tubs category. Lol.

ClumsyPilot 5y ago

"if it's not porn, would you be okay with a 13 yr old (the age limit on twitch) doing it?" That's about the age people discover porn, so the test doesn't work.

hervature 5y ago
They are talking about actually streaming. Would you be comfortable allowing a 13 year old girl in a bikini playing in an indoor inflatable pool that changes bikinis every 50 subs? The content is public, you can watch any stream without logging in.
- ClumsyPilot 5y ago
  Right, that's ofcourse different, but is that the right test? "X is being done and filmed by an adult, and kids have access to this platform, would you be comfortable with a teenager doing the same?" I can also think of a number of potentially dangerous activities, unrelated to sexual stuff, that would be appropriate for an adult to stream but not a kid.
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slightwinder 5y ago

> The main thing is these are not "hot tubs" they are indoors, in a normal room, an apartment, in a kiddies play pool, with kiddies inflatable equipment. Some are, some not. There are Hot Tub-Streams in Gardes, Pools, beachs. And the whole thing did not even start with Hot Tubs. In the beginning it was just people on their bed.