As a dev mostly working on embedded system, I can understand your rejection of web tech. Yes, it is a mess. I tried many different solutions. Best experience f

As a dev mostly working on embedded system, I can understand your rejection of web tech. Yes, it is a mess. I tried many different solutions. Best experience for UI for me was QT for "standard" applications on desktops (C++, I think it is available for Java, though). At some point I pushed through and learned the current web stack. I don't build the nicest looking apps, I have little experience in typography or design, but I think it is still a useful tool to have in your box. And JS isn't that terrible as people say it is. I don't buy into the newest lib to develop against, but for my use cases that isn't necessary anyway.