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Breeze Keyboard
- woleium 5y agoAlso see the split keyboard gallery here: https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/ https://aposymbiont.github.io/split-keyboards/
- mrgreenfur 5y agoLove this site!! Thanks for linking! I considered making one like this but never had time. Always found it so hard to know whats been done in the mech keyboard area with so many home grown and low volume boards.
- Symbiote 5y agoThanks, and to the GP for posting it! It's my site. I try and pay some attention to Reddit for new things, but it's more difficult to keep up with keyboards only available for a short time / no longer available.
- brokenmachine 5y agoAwesome site. Well done.
- ElCapitanMarkla 5y agoThanks for making that, I spent a fair bit of time checking them all out before settling on a Dactyl Mini - https://github.com/bstiq/dactyl-manuform-mini-keyboard https://github.com/bstiq/dactyl-manuform-mini-keyboard Just about got one half all wired up... a hell of a project to jump into when you can't solder to save yourself :D
- mike_d 5y agoIt looks like an interesting concept, and I was actually thinking about trying out a split keyboard... but absolutely everything is sold out.
- simonbarker87 5y agoZSA Moonlander is made to order, try that one.
- nulld3v 5y agoIt looks to be much more expensive unfortunately...
- 2muchcoffeeman 5y agoI’d love an ultimate hacking keyboard, but honestly, the BT Mist Barroco MD770 is fine. And I guess I’d want larger market for consumer ergo keyboards and not just these specialised items that many people can’t afford.
- bartvk 5y agoYou can always get something mass-produced from Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Freestyle2-Keyboard-Standard-Separation/dp/B00ADNBXE6/ https://www.amazon.com/Kinesis-Freestyle2-Keyboard-Standard-... I've built my own keyboard but turns out I'm quite happy with the above Kinesis Freestyle.
- Accacin 5y agoCan second this. I was having quite bad wrist pain, and wanted to try a split keyboard but didn't want to 'break the bank' in-case it didn't' work. I bought the optional VIP kit to add some tenting ability and I'm really happy with it for the price.
- cgh 5y agoCorrect me if I’m wrong but the Kinesis is not mechanical like the Breeze?
- bartvk 5y agoIndeed, not mechanical. The only thing it has in common with the article is that it’s split.
- noja 5y agoNice. I'd like to see the numpad in the center.
- kohlerm 5y agoI would like to see no numpad ;-)
- pbowyer 5y agoAs you snap it off one half, I am guessing the keyboard will work if you snap it off both halves?
- Fnoord 5y agoFor rare occassions where a numpad is desired you could use a dedicated one. There is even an IPv6 calculator numpad. Which also works great for MAC addresses. There is no reason why you cannot have specific keybinds or maps for such a purpose though, except muscle memory / learning curve.
- diziet 5y agoCool idea, I appreciate the effort to make it affordable, and the wider spacing around the arrow keys. I do wonder why the shift key is regular key sized -- I find hitting it with the little finger requires more target space.
- tekromancr 5y agoMan, those choks look really pretty
- bartvk 5y agoI also appreciate how the microcontrollers are not on the bottom, and clearly visible. It's pretty and it probably makes for a flatter keyboard. There's a logo on there. I wonder if it's a sticker, or a custom package or something.
- MivLives 5y agoThat's pretty common on these split boards (the mcu being visible). Commonly people will also put oleds on top. The logo on the MCU is the https://deskthority.net/wiki/Elite-C https://deskthority.net/wiki/Elite-C and it's silk screened on.
- nightowl_games 5y agoWith the numpad, where do you put the mouse (or touchpad)?? Ergonomic keyboards often dont have a numpad for a reason - I find that its the mouse that is more detrimental to my arm than the keyboard. By far. The numpad is just a distance that I have to travel over when going from keyboard to mouse and vice versa. Numpads are useless to me.
- mlang23 5y agoI dont use a mouse nor trackpad. Sounds like a great keyboard for me :-)
- NickNameNick 5y agoWhereas I prefer the numpad for entering numbers. Horses for courses.
- kadoban 5y agoThe best solution I've seen personally is my keyboard has a foot pedal, that when held changes some of the normal keys into a numpad. It's a kind of a mode switch. So no need to stretch extra distance or anything. It's a bit much in terms of...someone had to implement this nonsense, and I had to buy the optional foot pedal. But if I'm honest, it's really nice.
- Ballas 5y agoI have this implemented on my current keyboard but via a thumb key.
- riversflow 5y agoSame, when I hold a thumb key my right hand turns into the numpad and my left hand is on a set of arrow keys, where s, d, f correspond to <-, \/, ->, and a, q, caps, tab change to control, alt, control+shift, alt+shift, respectively. I've tried to pick up Vim with this setup and always feel like my keyboard makes it irrelevant.
- kagaw 5y agoToo bad its all sold out. I like the idea.
- pomber 5y agoI want to try a good one-handed chorded keyboard for everyday use, is there any product like that? Couldn't find anything
- MivLives 5y agoMost of these split ergo boards will work with only one half. You have to make your own chords in qmk though.
- pbowyer 5y agoIf you want a split keyboard for ergonomic reasons, a fantastic resource is [1]. It lets you compare sizes and shapes, and print out full-size paper mockups so you can try them on your hands. I did this and it turned out the keyboard I thought I wanted was too large. I'm now planning to build a Kyria. 1. https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/ https://jhelvy.shinyapps.io/splitkbcompare/
- Oddskar 5y agoI just built a Kyria! Wonderful device.
- ElCapitanMarkla 5y agoKyria was on my list to try before I went down the route of building a Dactyl Mini. Might have to build that next :D
- MivLives 5y agoThis thing seems so silly. If you're going to drop down to something like a Lily58, why is the nav cluster the thing you cling to? Why not add an extra row to bring in the f keys, and make it a full 75% board?
- alpaca128 5y agoAgreed. Once you're used to arrow keys on the homerow you never want to go back to dedicated arrow keys.
- sleepybrett 5y agoDisagree strongly. I spent about 6 months traveling with a 60% in my bag (1st gen touchbar keyboard is the absolute worst). I had it configured fairly typically (split spacebar but no arrow cluster). I had arrow clusters mapped to layer+wasd and layer+ijkl. It never became comfortable. My travel keyboard got upgraded to a 65%. Still use a kinesis advantage at home (it's just too big to pack for short trips). I've built a dactyl, I may start traveling with it instead (if I every have to go back to travel).
- alpaca128 5y agoTo be fair I'm a Vim user and so hjkl feels natural to me. I just also have to hold my right thumb down. Not sure how others do it, but on standard keyboards I've always struggled with accurately moving my hands; for example one journey to the arrow cluster and back meant my right hand usually landed on the wrong row or column if I wasn't looking. All issues of that kind just disappeared when I started using a keyboard actually designed for human hands and reduced hand/wrist movement. But the reason custom keyboards exist is exactly because different people want different things, and that's fine.
- rgoulter 5y ago> Not sure how others do it, but on standard keyboards I've always struggled with accurately moving my hands To the best of my memory, I just accurately moved my hands even as far as the \| or =/+ keys. Using arrow keys would've required quickly feeling for the arrow-key cluster before using it. Now that I'm on a split keyboard with a reduced number of keys, I think people vastly discount how difficult/awkward it is to accurately use the standard keyboard layout for programming without looking at the keyboard.
- gastonbe 5y agoI've built a similar keyboard myself but found the hardest part was to get the wrist rest and shape correctly. I went back to using an MS sculpt which isn't perfect, just more relaxing. Think I might try a Keyboardio 100 when it comes out as it seems to have everything.
- piokoch 5y agoNo F1-F12 keys? Maybe it is just a software I use all day (IntelliJ), but I think others also make some use of functional keys (for instance I like Windows convention that F2 is rename, whatever it means in a given context).
- detaro 5y agomapped to a layer with a modifier key
- TheSpiceIsLife 5y agoI like Q-Dir's take on F2, cycles through highlighting just the file name, then just the extension, and then both.
- alpaca128 5y agoYour keyboard also doesn't have keys for {}, (), ?, ~ etc., yet you still manage to type them with a shift key. Same thing here. This isn't even a very extreme case, 40% keyboards also don't have a numrow. Still just as quick to type on if you're used to it, with less hand movement. Definitely not everyone's cup of tea, though.
- vladvasiliu 5y agoThe issue I see with this is that the {} keys are usually just shift + []. Whereas the Fx keys are often pressed together with some combination of ctrl / alt / shift. So not having the row, that would add another key to the combo. Or make it a two-step process. I actually have the same frustration as GP. I usually want a 75% keyboard so that I can have my mouse close to it, and since I don't ever use the numpad, that works out great. But I don't care about the keyboard being actually small, so I would absolutely love some of those "macro keys" like on the gaming keyboards and also direct access to media keys. Yes, I know you can have layers and combinations, and it might not even be that much slower (or at all) with one of those compact keyboards, but I find it much more comfortable to be able to only push one key with one finger. I sometimes use my keyboards while doing something else besides "full-on typing" with both hands on the keys. Granted, in those cases I wouldn't be bothered by a full-width keyboard, but having two keyboards is just not something I'd consider practical.
- arvinsim 5y agoI have been trying to find split keyboards with function keys but it seems that most manufacturers don’t consider them important to add.
- someonesomeone 5y agoSame - it's bonkers how they're always skipped. Rather keep shortcut finger gymnastics to a minimum.
- sleepybrett 5y agoThe typical mapping is much like a macbook these days. layer+numrow. It's a pretty easy one to digest (f11 under 0, f12 under -). I don't go for '40' keyboards though. It's just too much overhead for too many keys, especially for software dev work. I wouldn't go smaller than '60' and don't myself go smaller than '65'.
- arkh 5y agoIt looks almost perfect: a trackball placed under one of the thumbs would make it possible to not have to use any mouse. Maybe add some foot pedals too.
- limeblack 5y agoAn ergonomic keyboard can be more comfortable to type on. If you are just looking for additional keys or thumb modifiers I would go with a Japanese keyboard[1]. They are cheaper and very standardized. [1]: https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-Japanese-Wireless-Conformity-TK-FDM106TBK/dp/B07V4J22RH/ref=mp_s_a_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=japanese+keyboard&qid=1621527054&sr=8-4 https://www.amazon.com/ELECOM-Japanese-Wireless-Conformity-T...