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Unveiling our new Quantum AI campus
- typon 5y agoWhy is it called Quantum AI? What does that mean?
- luma 5y agoTwo buzzwords that sound like things that congress would want to have happening in America, lest anyone start thinking about taking action over monoploistic practices elsewhere in the company.
- Guest42 5y agoI’d also be curious the goals/budget of Quantum AI.
- timy2shoes 5y agoThe problem with defining clear goals for Quantum AI is that if you try to measure them then they will change.
- ChrisArchitect 5y agounderrated comment
- astrange 5y agoThe one you measure won't change, just all the rest.
- omrjml 5y agoHere is a little explanation from TF quantum website. https://www.tensorflow.org/quantum/concepts https://www.tensorflow.org/quantum/concepts
- ducttapecrown 5y agoIt means you brute force problems with linear algebra on a quantum computer, but quantum computers big enough to brute force things don't exist yet, so they've got a couple-hundred year plan to bootstrap themselves up there.
- joshu 5y agoi saw a great documentary about this on hulu
- krohling 5y ago'Devs' was the first thing I thought of when I saw this announcement.
- nlh 5y agoRelated/expanded: If you haven't seen Devs on Hulu, it's really great! I wasn't expecting to enjoy it so much. Nick Offerman takes a bit of getting used to in a dramatic role and they should have cast Jonathan "Mike Ehrmantraut" Banks as Kenton instead, but hey, whatcha gonna do. Go watch it!
- philsnow 5y agoI was pleasantly surprised to see Alison Pill (played Kim Pine in Scott Pilgrim vs the World) in Devs. I guess she was in at least one episode of ST:PIC but I haven't followed up on that.
- andred14 5y agoI'm all for fixing hunger and reducing pollution but stop insulting our intelligence we are not stupid: 1. CO2 is not a problem and is in fact essential for life. In other words, there is NO climate change problem and supporting this is the fact that all previous climate change predictions have been wrong. 2. There is no real virus emergency as proven by statistics which show there was no increase in deaths after 2020. It was all a big lie used to usher in drastic and unwanted changes in society.
- booleandilemma 5y agoPowered by not just one, but two buzzwords.
- rektide 5y agoThe IO video introducing Quantum AI campus was fantastically grating to me. There's so little to say, so little to share, about what is happening, what this is, what it's for: it's just pure marketing fluff, with the thinnest veneer of introductory technical material. 'This is some kind of chip. It goes in this cold thing we built. We're hoping to to inspire others.' Gee frigging thanks. Tech is either esoteric or exoteric. It either is a thing for only experts to understand and use and put to use, or it is something illuminating, something shareable, is a conveyable experience. Quantum AI combines two of the most opaque, hard to understand fields to make something whose prestige in large part rests upon it being entirely indecipherable to 99.9999999% of humanity. To which I just keep wanting to say, can we please make personal computing a thing again?
- agumonkey 5y agowe should have expected a superposition at some point
- Out_of_Characte 5y agoI was sceptical because 'AI' and 'quantum' seems to be used interchangeably and fits your regular snakeoil salestalk but google has done enormous amounts of research into non-classical computing. They've also done their AI projects to solve protein folding faster and more accurate than any contemporary solving models[1]. which is why the name sort of makes sense even though many on HN would appreciate nuance. "Nature is quantum mechanical: The bonds and interactions among atoms behave probabilistically, with richer dynamics that exhaust the simple classical computing logic." "Already we run quantum computers that can perform calculations beyond the reach of classical computers."[citation needed] [1] https://www.deepmind.com/blog/article/AlphaFold-Using-AI-for-scientific-discovery https://www.deepmind.com/blog/article/AlphaFold-Using-AI-for...
- anon_tor_12345 5y ago>"Already we run quantum computers that can perform calculations beyond the reach of classical computers" Yea this isn't true. Their 54 qubit machine can simulate random circuits pretty fast but 1) that's not at all useful and specifically contrived as a test of "quantum supremacy". 2) totally debatable whether it's actually out of reach: >In the paper, it is argued that their device reached “quantum supremacy” and that “a state-of-the-art supercomputer would require approximately 10,000 years to perform the equivalent task.” We argue that an ideal simulation of the same task can be performed on a classical system in 2.5 days and with far greater fidelity https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/10/on-quantum-supremacy/ https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/10/on-quantum-suprem...
- bawolff 5y agoIbm is a competitor in this space. Although there is some debate about google's claim, ibm is a very biased source as they have financial incentives to bad talk google. As far as point 1 goes, nobody ever claimed otherwise. Its just an arbitrary milestone. Walk before you run. Quantum supremacy is a step in the journey, not the destination. You make a hello world program before making actual useful programs.
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- jboggan 5y agoThe hardware side has been up there for a long time, and the theoretical side of the team has been in the Venice office. I guess they got a new building in Santa Barbara and wanted an announcement. I wonder if they are forcing the theorists to move up north?
- sgt101 5y agoI think QNN are very interesting from a compsci perspective, and interesting from a quantum tech perspective, but not so much from a real world perspective. As I understand it loading classical data into a quantum computer - into quantum ram - is a big bottleneck. So running a QNN over a picture of a cat can't give a speedup vs. running it on a classical machine. Is this wrong HN? I haven't found a result showing QNN's do offer strong speedups for training or testing - I have found papers saying it looks good - but I haven't found the result. I think this may be a literature search fail by me though. For generalisation I have seen papers claiming that there will be better generalisation with QNN but I have failed to understand this result and do need to work harder! I also believe that the most promising algorithm for quantum ML (HHL) has been "dequantized" I think that Grover's and QMC are pretty secure but also only quadratic in speed up (I say only - this is because that means there is a window of quantum advantage that may or may not be useful before the quantum algorithms fall off a cliff as well. Ok - I need to understand this stuff for real, so please shoot me to bits !
- lumost 5y agoQC for optimization and other hard search problems is an interesting area for deeper exploration. It's possible that quantum optimizers could be exponentially faster than existing optimization techniques by evaluating multiple minima simultaneously. Throwing AI on the research campus does help focus what researchers will do there - e.g. research algorithms which can plausibly improve training, inference, and generalization of neural networks/ML models. Rather than researching other more "practical" QC applications such as cryptography.
- typon 5y ago> It's possible that quantum optimizers could be exponentially faster than existing optimization techniques by evaluating multiple minima simultaneously. Is there any known quantum algorithm that gives a speedup over classical algorithms? I don't mean "call Grover as a subroutine" during your standard classical optimization algorithm.
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- Animats 5y agoIn Santa Barbara? That should be interesting. There's been some good physics from there. Flash LIDAR came from Advanced Scientific Concepts there. UC Santa Barbara is Hollywood's vision of a college. Everyone is good-looking and the college is right on the beach.
- ducttapecrown 5y agoIt's also where Station Q, Microsoft's quantum computing research station is.
- jl2718 5y agoPersonally I think we’ll soon discover that what we’re doing in ‘quantum’ is indistinguishable from classical analog at that frequency and noise temperature, and that will also be the point where it becomes broadly useful and scalable.
- AJRF 5y agoI don't even know how to make strings in C, how the hell am I going to code on a quantum computer. Sigh.
- capableweb 5y agoYou're programming on a computer that run on C and others today, I'm sure you'll manage in the future too. "On the shoulders of giants" and all that.
- ffhhj 5y ago> how the hell am I going to code on a quantum computer Just handwave in front of your Quantum AI HAL-9000 and it will imagine a create software for you!
- uses 5y agoTiny feedback for anyone reading who worked on this page: https://quantumai.google/learn/lab https://quantumai.google/learn/lab It would be great if the audio clips had the standard seek bar with the ability to pause/play. Perhaps when I scroll up or down to a section, pause the current audio clip. Then resume playing it when I come back. But also allow me to seek around. Rather than just restarting from the beginning. Because these clips are several minutes long and I am given no indication of their length. Currently all I can do is either continue listening for an unknown amount of time, or go to the next/previous section and completely lose my progress.
- st00 5y agoThanks for the feedback! We intended for each clip to be much shorter, which might have diminished the importance of a feature like the one you suggested. Even after we cut down the audio we got from the team, there was still a lot of great exposition, but not enough time to revisit that part of the design. That said, I'll be sure to share this with the team.
- YeGoblynQueenne 5y ago>> Within the decade, Google aims to build a useful, error-corrected quantum computer. This will accelerate solutions for some of the world’s most pressing problems, like sustainable energy and reduced emissions to feed the world’s growing population, and unlocking new scientific discoveries, like more helpful AI. Are "sustainable energy", "reduced emissions to feed the world's growing population" and "unlocking new scientific discoveries like more helpful AI" goals that Google is currently working towards? Regarding the need to feed "the world's growing population", note that absolute increase in global population per year has levelled off for several decades and may even be decreasing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_growth
- xvilka 5y agoDoesn't make sense until we have at least thousands of qubits.
- jillesvangurp 5y agoThe article mentions a million qubits is the goal.
- hypersoar 5y agoFor those who are unaware, there's a good reason to put this in Santa Barbara: it's already the home of Microsoft Station Q, a quantum computing research facility on the campus of UCSB. When I left the math department there in 2014, there were more and more graduate students attaching themselves to it. Not to mention the growing tech industry in Goleta (the city UCSB is actually located in). So it's a perfectly sensible place to put a quantum AI lab. Even if you don't know what that means, yet!
- Clewza313 5y agoThe other obvious reason is that Google is already doing quantum research there, this is just them moving into bigger digs. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191023133358.htm https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2019/10/191023133358.h...
- ehsankia 5y agoSo will Santa Barbara turn into Quantum Valley?
- saagarjha 5y agoIf it was in a valley, maybe.
- tomc1985 5y agoCan't wait to find out how this tech is going to be used to better separate me from the money in my wallet
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- musicpulpite 5y agoDevs anyone?
- Jack000 5y agoIt's great that Google is doing this. Quantum computing is the kind of capital-intensive research that perfectly suits a corporate research lab.