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Google I/O 2021
- pjmlp 5y agoApparently Tizen and Wear OS are merging, curious to see what it means in practice. Regarding Android, the usual kind of keynote as if everyone would be getting the last Android version.
- Shadonototro 5y agoTheir Java bloat was borderline for a constrained device that is a smartphone, always needed double the memory/cpu/battery than iOS alternative, it couldn't scale down to a smart watch, they are stuck and went with a partnership with SAMSUNG, what a shame Some people are even saying they are about to fully embrace tizen with Dart & Flutter as a 1st class citizen, some are even saying they'll use it as a foundation for their next gen Android smartphones
- pjmlp 5y agoTizen has first class support for .NET in case you missed it. And it isn't like they are that good with their C coding efforts. https://www.theregister.com/2017/07/12/samsungs_tizen_no_longer_worst_ever/ https://www.theregister.com/2017/07/12/samsungs_tizen_no_lon... So I am curious what the merge means in practice.
- Shadonototro 5y agoTizen.NET has surface API for .net, it's totally different TizenRT is where the core lives, and that is what Google is talking about, coming months will be interesting
- Shadonototro 5y agohttps://github.com/flutter-tizen https://github.com/flutter-tizen the people in that repo are working for samsung, need more evidence? :D
- moshmosh 5y agoSo true. I remember how big a bummer Android keynotes were when I did lots of mobile dev. "Oh, cool, that'll be fun to use... in three or four years".
- nostromo 5y agoSundar is perhaps the most uninspiring CEO from any major American tech company when presenting. He's talking about amazing tech like quantum computing, but he sounds like he's talking about a Ford Taurus. Is this just his external-facing persona, or is he like this internally too?
- actuator 5y agoTim Cook?
- mortenjorck 5y agoTim Cook sounds like someone who is genuinely excited to tell you about a Ford Taurus.
- NikolaeVarius 5y agoWho the hell cares.
- throwaway3699 5y agoSundar spends most of his internal facing time talking about racial equity and less about actual business. Source: Googler friends.
- kenjackson 5y agoReally? Externally Google gives the appearance that it doesn't care about racial equity.
- spurgu 5y agoProject Starline looks incredible. Wonder if it'll be affordable/viable for consumers.
- actuator 5y agoVideo of Project Starline: https://youtu.be/Q13CishCKXY https://youtu.be/Q13CishCKXY
- achow 5y agoInteresting thing is that they don't show the participants touching the glass pane 'separating' them, whereas for that kind of situation it would be very very natural thing to do. I guess the imagery would distort/degrade real fast when you start reaching out towards the glass pane (you would be out of camera's FoV), and that would break the magic.
- nebari 5y agoYou can see a bit of the visual degradation and artifacts when reaching toward the 'screen' in the video at 1:46/1:50, as the woman with a baby on her lap reaches her palm toward the screen.
- Smaug123 5y agoI agree with everything you've said except for "and that would break the magic". We've already seen proofs of concept of "how natural does this kind of thing seem", in Star Trek and so on, and I can easily imagine not even noticing this kind of user error after a couple of minutes. Even if the screen burst out in simulated blue sparks when the person on the other end reached past the camera, I think that… probably doesn't break the immersion? You "just" need conversation to be truly real-time, seriously low latency, and with really good audio and visual quality. Once you've got those, I can easily imagine crossing the threshold where you're speaking through a magic pane of glass rather than into a screen. Think of how you might find interacting with a literal magical artefact that did this.
- Laremere 5y ago
- actuator 5y agoI am really intrigued to see how this will work. https://health.google/health-research/imaging-and-diagnostics/?linkId=119056153#dermatology https://health.google/health-research/imaging-and-diagnostic... For me at least, minor dermatological issues have been something that I feel lazy enough(also a bit conscious) to not go to a dermatologist about. If there is something that can quickly help me figure out any OTC solution to it or some home remedy, I would love that.
- gordon_freeman 5y agoFrom their Keynote today I definitely saw the renewed focus on their mission: "to organize the world's information and make it universally accessible and useful". The new features introduced in Translation, Search, Photos and Health diagnosis along with that cool feature to search/find a specific clip within a video etc. by utilizing AI and ML at scale is pretty good.
- ortusdux 5y agoThe new UI overhaul looks interesting: https://www.theverge.com/22439777/android-12-design-features-widgets-first-look-google https://www.theverge.com/22439777/android-12-design-features... The privacy changes are a step in the right direction.
- officeplant 5y agoHaven't heard much positive feedback from other people testing 12 on their pixels when it comes to the UI changes. I'm still kinda on the fence but a lot could change by release. The privacy changes seem to be the only benefit to 12 so far personally. Which of course makes it worth the move.
- Forbo 5y agoHere's hoping the privacy stuff is present in AOSP and not dependent on Play Services.
- rkagerer 5y agoThe new Material stuff feels to me like a gimmick. Basically just color skins on your screen the same way you can pick your own skin for your phone case. Sure, people will use it, but it's not very clever and won't make anyone more productive.
- jhanschoo 5y agoDon't underestimate how much lay consumers value colors and personalization.
- rektide 5y agoStarting off with new collaboration tooling integration is pretty on target for 2021! Getting a big vibe of yesterday's "Slack Destroying American Companies"[1]. I didn't actually click through & read, which would have lead me to finding out it's Matt Taibbi having a discussion with Antonio Garcia-Martinez (who personally I am not interested in hearing from). But the title reminded me of a part of Ezra Klein interviewing Cal Newport about his new book, "A World Without Email"[2]. In the interview they spend quite a while discussing how it seems like the whole world is presently stuck with Slack, how there's so little visible mainstream competition. Cal has been engaged with this question of workflow & tech & collaboration for a number years, often from a somewhat anti- standpoint, with books such as "Deep Work" and "Digital Minimalism". Hearing two sharp minds talking about collaboration was incredibly enriching to me. Notably, the collaboration tools shown at the beginning of IO are for explicit collaboration times. They're not marketed as always on communication devices, not a replacement for slack. But they both are about modern tech-enabled collaboration, which is an interesting topic, and one that seems like we're only just starting to really dive into. Long long long after Engelbart's Mother of All Demos (52.4 years after). [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27191181 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27191181 [2] https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/podcasts/ezra-klein-podcast-cal-newport-transcript.html https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/05/podcasts/ezra-klein-podca...
- lern_too_spel 5y agoThey still haven't launched a lot of the Google Workspace features they announced last year. Don't hold your breath. Some of the features, loke Meet in Docs, are just the same features they announced last year just announced again.
- tosh 5y agoThe assistive technology showcases are super impressive and inspiring. Is there like a website to get an overview of these efforts?
- lern_too_spel 5y agoA password manager that doesn't support sharing passwords? Why would I bother importing passwords from another password manager for less functionality?