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Who is to blame Uber or inferior lawmakers?
by setum 5y ago
Who is to blame Uber or inferior lawmakers?
- artificial 5y agoIt’s easy to hate the player instead of the game.
- yunohn 5y agoI hate this retort - usually players don’t get to decide the game’s rules. Tax law is full of loopholes intentionally created for the elite, politicians, and corporations.
- jeltz 5y agoYeah, I too hate it. Just because something is legal does not make it moral. We could use the same argument for the bankers who caused the subrime mortgage crash or for dictators who rob their own countries blind.
- madsbuch 5y agoThe death of morale... It's OK to commit fraud, kill, and rape as long as you can do it within a loophole in the law. Of cause it is a societal destructive way to see the world as a game.
- solarkraft 5y agoAre billions-valued companies really expected by anyone to be beholden to any morals? If so, why?
- cygx 5y agoBecause companies are run by people? Shell companies don't just spawn on their own...
- jiriknesl 5y agoPaying lower taxes is nothing like kill or rape. There are lots of internet-only companies for which the government did absolutely nothing.
- LightG 5y agoOnly if you think one-dimensionally. Consider the ultimate cause and effects and you'll get closer the truth.
- patrec 5y agoYou mean all those companies that grew and educated their employees in test tubes on Mars from whence they telecommute using their own inter-planetary network infrastructure?
- snakeboy 5y agoHow about providing infrastructure, a stable economy, peaceful society, etc. ?
- burntoutfire 5y agoLol. The government provides stable society which allows for any company to function. Without government, Musks and Jobs of the world wouldn't even get to their first million, as they'd just be robbed and killed on their way there.
- madsbuch 5y agoMy six years of dept free, tuition free education in computer science earning me a M.Sc. with government student housing subsidies and monthly pay is "the government doing absolutely nothing"? And it is morally warranted that I do what I can to avoid paying taxes when I employ online?
- Vadoff 5y agoThis isn't fraud, murder, or rape though - it's optimizing tax expenditure to the legal limit, which the government was fine with. If you want people to pay more taxes, increase the legal amount that they need to pay. This may mean closing loopholes or raising the rate. That's it. Expecting a company to willingly pay more taxes than they have to, especially when surrounded by a field of competitors who don't, is foolish.
- capableweb 5y agoOr, we can enforce the spirit of the law (companies with equal profit pays equal amount of tax or similar) rather than enforcing the letter of the law. You know, how we deal with lawbreakers otherwise. It's exactly the reason we have space for interpretation in laws in the first place.
- nraynaud 5y agowell, the European rule is that the HQ of a company for tax purpose is where its orders are actually coming from. I don't have this vibe here.
- madsbuch 5y agoThe problem is that there is a risk/compliance trade-off. "The law" is not a compiler that compiles or not. Heck, companies can report whatever they want and get away with a certain chance. If you do the math it might even be probabilistically beneficial. But that does not make these actions social or socially beneficial or morally right.
- technicolorwhat 5y agoHow about both :)
- sumedh 5y ago> inferior lawmakers? Who elects them?