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Disagree about your comment saying I sound like I’ve given up. I’ve never driven a car, don’t use AC and run heat as little as possible, don’t use a clothes dr

Disagree about your comment saying I sound like I’ve given up. I’ve never driven a car, don’t use AC and run heat as little as possible, don’t use a clothes drier, live in a tiny apartment, eat plant-based, never fly in a plane, won’t have kids. I think I’m the only one trying and everybody else has given up!

Glench 6y ago
Well if that's what it feels like to you no wonder you sound hopeless! :) I also have never owned a car, ride my bike, eat mostly vegetarian, and eschew travel by planes! Solidarity! And definitely feel your frustration with people. I think if there was clear guidance and leadership, financial help to make good climate decisions, and it became part of a cultural expectation that making bad climate decisions like buying a new fossil car or gas hot water heater was a faux pas then we'd progress toward climate solutions a lot faster. Working as a therapist with people with addictions, I feel a clear analogy with people trying to change their behavior — lots of behaviors are quite deeply rooted both in people's psyches as well as our culture.
- paulcole 6y ago
  Yeah dang sorry. Didn’t realize Rewiring America was working on making ovens and clothes dryers more efficient. Brighter days ahead!
  - Glench 5y ago
    > From the @WhiteHouse event today: "Rewiring America and Coalition for Green Capital report released Monday found that by switching to heat pumps for space or water heating, 65 million U.S. households could save a total of as much as $27.2 billion a year." https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/05/17/biden-energy-efficiency/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/05/17/...
Glavnokoman 6y ago
You're not going to have kids? How do you feel about those having more than 2? And more than 4? I do not think your approach is sustainable but at least you seem to tackle it from the correct angle.
- paulcole 5y ago
  I think everyone should think long and hard about having any kids. There’s no risk of everyone deciding they shouldn’t have kids, so lack of population is not a worry at all.
  - Glavnokoman 5y ago
    I meant the opposite. It is pointless for people who understand the danger of overpopulation to not have kids as long as there is a crowd of others who don't and who raise a bunch of kids. And tell them to do the same. I am not saying I know how to resolve this but don't you think there is a problem with this approach?

Glench 6y ago

Well if that's what it feels like to you no wonder you sound hopeless! :) I also have never owned a car, ride my bike, eat mostly vegetarian, and eschew travel by planes! Solidarity! And definitely feel your frustration with people. I think if there was clear guidance and leadership, financial help to make good climate decisions, and it became part of a cultural expectation that making bad climate decisions like buying a new fossil car or gas hot water heater was a faux pas then we'd progress toward climate solutions a lot faster. Working as a therapist with people with addictions, I feel a clear analogy with people trying to change their behavior — lots of behaviors are quite deeply rooted both in people's psyches as well as our culture.

paulcole 6y ago
Yeah dang sorry. Didn’t realize Rewiring America was working on making ovens and clothes dryers more efficient. Brighter days ahead!
- Glench 5y ago
  > From the @WhiteHouse event today: "Rewiring America and Coalition for Green Capital report released Monday found that by switching to heat pumps for space or water heating, 65 million U.S. households could save a total of as much as $27.2 billion a year." https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/05/17/biden-energy-efficiency/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/climate-solutions/2021/05/17/...

Glavnokoman 6y ago

You're not going to have kids? How do you feel about those having more than 2? And more than 4? I do not think your approach is sustainable but at least you seem to tackle it from the correct angle.

paulcole 5y ago
I think everyone should think long and hard about having any kids. There’s no risk of everyone deciding they shouldn’t have kids, so lack of population is not a worry at all.
- Glavnokoman 5y ago
  I meant the opposite. It is pointless for people who understand the danger of overpopulation to not have kids as long as there is a crowd of others who don't and who raise a bunch of kids. And tell them to do the same. I am not saying I know how to resolve this but don't you think there is a problem with this approach?