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Honestly, the glitch didn't strike me as all that bad. Obviously stopping in traffic isn't ideal but nothing it seemed especially unsafe (and the other drivers
by seoaeu 5y ago
Honestly, the glitch didn't strike me as all that bad. Obviously stopping in traffic isn't ideal but nothing it seemed especially unsafe (and the other drivers did a reasonable job of noticing that the car was disabled and went around it). Certainly nothing like the high speed Tesla collisions.
Even as a human driver the conditions seem kind of weird. There's some cones placed on the dotted lines between two lanes but no obvious obstructions in either of the lanes. The vision system likely did not know which side to be on. Combine that with a truck driving by and snatching up some of the cones at one point as it was going along, and it is easy to see why the AV behaves erratically.
- bpodgursky 5y agoSeems a bit unfair for everyone to take cars intentionally calibrated to be super duper cautious and unsafe and never do anything risky, and then complain when they see an unexpected situation and do something annoyingly cautious but totally safe.
- JKCalhoun 5y agoI was thinking how unsafe it was to come to a complete stop on such a busy roadway.
- clairity 5y agounexpected maneuvers, even if slow, are also risky, which is something that seems counterintuitive at first but shouldn’t be. unpredictability in any direction increases the risk of collision, which is why freeways have minimum speeds and incidentally why distracted driving is so dangerous, because it exponentiates unpredictability. we really need to collectively get past this idea that safety is bounded on one side, across all facets of our lives, because it’s usually not and that induced complacency has a way of coming back to bite us. (that’s not to say that the various risks are always substantial, just that they’re not all sitting neatly on one side.)
- cddotdotslash 5y agoStopping in the middle of a busy highway is not safe. Cars come from behind much more quickly than anticipated. If one driver isn't paying attention and swerves to avoid it, the car behind that could easily rear-end you. As soon as the assistance team was dispatched, the car should have stayed where it was. Instead, it pulled out into a much busier road and stopped again.
- jfoster 5y ago> Cars come from behind much more quickly than anticipated. But that isn't what happened (or would typically happen) in this type of situation. Usually the car blocking the lane will be enough of an impediment that a queue of traffic will build up behind to overtake it. Cars at the back of the queue will be coming to a stop more gradually. Human drivers should not have critical failures just because there is an unexpected queue of traffic on the road.
- perl4ever 5y agoNot too long ago I was stopped on a straight and level four lane non-divided road at the end of a line of traffic. An SUV came to a halt normally behind me, and just as the line ahead of me started to move, they were rear ended by a car cruising at highway speed. Which pushed them into me, not only caving in the trunk but damaging the C-pillar area. This sort of thing happens all the time. And because of modern crumple zones and safety equipment, people have an excellent chance of living through it and doing it again.
- manigandham 5y agoThere are cones and a sign blocking the entrance to that lane before the turn: https://i.imgur.com/8ViGpLP.png https://i.imgur.com/8ViGpLP.png You would not be able to drive into that lane without hitting cones straight-on until after the stall point.
- seoaeu 5y agoA bunch of the drama was that the car resumed a few times before stopping again, so it also saw those cones from a few other vantage points that were more confusing. At one point it even partially merged into the closed off lane because the cones were so far apart.