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The artificial meat market still hasn't been able to address the adverse health effects of isoflavones, and other adverse health effects of phytoestrogens. I'm

The artificial meat market still hasn't been able to address the adverse health effects of isoflavones, and other adverse health effects of phytoestrogens. I'm not referring exclusively to endocrine disruption[5]. There's lots of sources showing negative effects on the brain[1][2][3][4]. These 'impossible meats' are not a good solution. I've heard all of the "eat the bugs" rhetoric regarding addressing the protein needs of a growing third world. Why not address the issues of unsustainable overpopulation first? [1]http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/soyiso/index.html#cognitive http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/soyiso/... [2]http://rense.com/general3/soy.htm http://rense.com/general3/soy.htm [3]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3074428 [4]http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm http://thyroid.about.com/cs/soyinfo/a/soy.htm [5]https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443604 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3443604

SiempreViernes 5y ago
Uh, more efficient protein production is part of addressing overpopulation? Or do you mean we shouldn't "allow" quite as many girls to grow up?
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  Maybe just stop having so many babies.
causasui 5y ago
First off, no one is going to argue beyond/impossible meat is necessarily healthy, but these two brands (currently leading the artificial meat market) contain just a small percentage of the isoflavones content found in soy-based products like tofu. Moreover, the negative late-life cognitive effects ("brain shrinkage") referenced by your second source are just as likely correlated to a lack of B12 and DHA (both vital for brain health) not present naturally in soy but are easily supplemented via other plant-based sources. In fact, lots of modern tofu products are enriched with one or both. The uncontested health benefits of tofu when compared to meat far outweigh the single flimsy correlational 30-year study concluding "tofu shrinks your brain!". Also just worth noting, you cite four references showing negative effects of isoflavones on the brain, but 4 is about thyroid health, 5 is about reproductive health.
Glavnokoman 5y ago
Mentioning overpopulation is a sure way to get downvoted here. Somehow the local crowd prefers to see the planet densely covered with salad to pack as many Homo Sapiens as possible. I am not sure why or what for...

SiempreViernes 5y ago

Uh, more efficient protein production is part of addressing overpopulation? Or do you mean we shouldn't "allow" quite as many girls to grow up?

amanaplanacanal 5y ago
Maybe just stop having so many babies.

causasui 5y ago

First off, no one is going to argue beyond/impossible meat is necessarily healthy, but these two brands (currently leading the artificial meat market) contain just a small percentage of the isoflavones content found in soy-based products like tofu. Moreover, the negative late-life cognitive effects ("brain shrinkage") referenced by your second source are just as likely correlated to a lack of B12 and DHA (both vital for brain health) not present naturally in soy but are easily supplemented via other plant-based sources. In fact, lots of modern tofu products are enriched with one or both. The uncontested health benefits of tofu when compared to meat far outweigh the single flimsy correlational 30-year study concluding "tofu shrinks your brain!". Also just worth noting, you cite four references showing negative effects of isoflavones on the brain, but 4 is about thyroid health, 5 is about reproductive health.

Glavnokoman 5y ago

Mentioning overpopulation is a sure way to get downvoted here. Somehow the local crowd prefers to see the planet densely covered with salad to pack as many Homo Sapiens as possible. I am not sure why or what for...