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Israeli airstrike in Gaza destroys building with AP bureau

24 points by beshrkayali 5y ago

NeverFade 5y ago
Context: > Since Monday, more than 2,000 rockets have been fired by Hamas and Islamic Jihad — both groups designated as terror organizations by the United States — from Gaza in addition to unmanned attack drones and anti-tank missiles. Three missiles were also fired from Lebanon on Thursday. > Nine people in Israel have been killed, according to the Magen David Adom emergency service, including a 5-year-old, Ido Avigal, who was killed Wednesday in Sderot, a small town on the Gaza border that has been regularly attacked by rockets for years. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/weary-israelis-endure-more-hamas-rocket-barrages-n1267371 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/weary-israelis-endure-mor...
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- Udik 5y ago
  Context: Israel has seized East Jerusalem and has been building illegal settlements for decades in the West Bank, contrary to international law, and the current regime in that area has been recently recognised as full-fledged apartheid. [1] Meanwhile, Gaza is an open air prison with a million people trapped inside, under the strictest embargo. Since Israel controls its borders, air space and maritime space, it is still considered as an occupied territory. [1] https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...
  - NeverFade 5y ago
    In other words, Jews in Israel are "illegal" and "apartheid", so 2,000 rockets fired at them by terrorist groups are justified. You pretend to care about "human rights", but what you're actually doing is demonizing 7 million Jews living in Israel, to justify genocidal violence against them.
    - Udik 5y ago
      No, illegal settlements outside the proper borders of Israel are illegal, and the situation they create there is one of apartheid. What's hard to understand about this?
      - NeverFade 5y ago
        The 2,000 rockets have been fired at Tel Aviv, Ramat Gan, and other cities at the heart of Israel.
yostrovs 5y ago
The building was destroyed after providing notice to the occupants, allowing the AP staff to take their computers and leave. So it was not an attempt to silence reporting in the region, as the article claims.
- totetsu 5y ago
  That's not a very sound line of reasoning... What has having ones computer got to do with not being silenced by your office being leveled in an airstrike?
- haunter 5y ago
  >The building was destroyed after providing notice to the occupants Thanks I've been looking for this I watched the BBC live reports where it collapsed https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-57114168 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-57114168 But then I was searching around and found this video (and others) where people were standing with cameras and such as if they knew it was going to be destroyed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEoOZ_Oxsw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEoOZ_Oxsw So yeah I didn't know IDF gave early warning
  - neom 5y ago
    Thanks for posting the youtube link. Very interesting to me how precise the targeting is... I guess rocket/bombing tech has gotten super good since I was a kid eh?
jokoon 5y ago
I've recently learned that the Fatah (Mamoud Abbas being the palestinian elected leader) and the Hamas are rivals and there is violence between the two camps. Iran also have a lot of influence with those affairs. When you have insurgents who hide into the population, it becomes quite problematic. At some point, Israel might want to make palestinians understand that as long as they consent to be human shields, and as long as they agree with people launching rockets from civilian places, it won't prevent them to bomb civilian buildings where terrorists hide. Israel wants Palestinians to not tolerate rocket attacks. As long as the Hamas aims rockets towards citizen, it's hard to argue that Israel shouldn't counter attack when the Hamas is using human shields.
- totetsu 5y ago
  Yeah silly Palestinians. If they only stopped tolerating people putting their lives an property in danger...
  - petra 5y ago
    They made that mess for themselves. If they acted reasonably decades ago, in the Oslo peace deal, and afterwards, Some solution could have been found for 99% of the issues(given enough pressure from the world, because some parts of the Israeli public did resist the peace process ), and we all could just live peacefully in the region. But in reality, either they are motivated by Islam, and by wishful thinking that Israel won't exist in the region - or they make some really dumb decisions, like choosing Hamas, an religiously extreme, terrorist organization, in their democratic elections as their representative in the peace process. It's just sad. So much blood fear and destruction, and for what ? for nothing.
  - jokoon 5y ago
    I'm not criticizing palestinians, but they're being brainwashed by extremism and are refusing to negotiate. They're politically disorganized and can't really agree on what to do. Not to mention Egypt is refusing to help them. It's an impossible situation. Israel will never be able to trust Palestinians because of terrorist attacks, and Palestinians will always end up impoverished and encircled. Meanwhile, Iran sends weapons.
beshrkayali 5y ago
According to Al Jazeera (who's offices were also in that tower), there were sixty residential apartments in there. Sixty families at least have lost their home, possessions and memories.
- NeverFade 5y ago
  Hundreds of Israeli families lost their homes, hit by over 2,000 Hamas rockets deliberately targeting civilians. Israel warned this building's residents so none got hurt by airstrike. However, just two hours ago an Israeli building was hit by Hamas rockets and a man was killed: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/one-person-said-critically-wounded-in-ramat-gan-rocket-strike/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/one-person-said... So far 10 Israeli people were killed in these rocket attacks over the past week alone.
  - mam3 5y ago
    Im confused at the nerve of the comparison everytime. What hope do you have when you had the misfortune to be born and live in gaza ? Literally what ELSE do you have to do when you are basically jailed in 5km^2, other than building and sending rockets to the entity jailing you. Of course they are going to rebel. Its literally the plot of the movie "the maze". What else would you do ?
    - NeverFade 5y ago
      Mexicans in Juarez also have a pretty bad life compared to Americans in San Diego. If Mexican in Juarez fire 2,000 rockets at San Diego killing and wounding dozens of Americans, the US should just let it slide because those Mexicans are poor and unhappy?
      - mam3 5y ago
        This comparison makes no sense. Mexicans in juarez are not blocked to go ANYWHERE, BY the us. Someone born in gaza the past 30 years or more is literally blocked BY ISRAEL to go anywhere else in the world. With no hope, literally anyone would start rebelling and building rockets.
seif_madc 5y ago
just screw the world and all the fake "human rights" voices all over it, i'll break it to you in a simple way you stupid people out there, imagine you were living in your house which you call home because it was your father's land and house and grandfather's and grand grand father's for centuries, and then suddenly due to some political shit and some shitty word order, your house or "part" of your house was given as a gift to some entity or someone who claims that it's his house not yours, and they have the right to occupy it, you tried to push back but you were overpowered by that shit and his justice league, the rest of the story is known, so please stop accusing people of terrorism, if it is me i'll not stop killing and destroying the intruder untill he is completely wiped out from the planet.
DanAtC 5y ago
Why are all the articles about this "[flagged]"? Edit: Looks like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27166482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27166482 is sticking to the front page. Edit 2: Nope! Also flagged

24 points by beshrkayali 5y ago

Context: > Since Monday, more than 2,000 rockets have been fired by Hamas and Islamic Jihad — both groups designated as terror organizations by the United States — from Gaza in addition to unmanned attack drones and anti-tank missiles. Three missiles were also fired from Lebanon on Thursday. > Nine people in Israel have been killed, according to the Magen David Adom emergency service, including a 5-year-old, Ido Avigal, who was killed Wednesday in Sderot, a small town on the Gaza border that has been regularly attacked by rockets for years. https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/weary-israelis-endure-more-hamas-rocket-barrages-n1267371 https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/weary-israelis-endure-mor...

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Udik 5y ago
Context: Israel has seized East Jerusalem and has been building illegal settlements for decades in the West Bank, contrary to international law, and the current regime in that area has been recently recognised as full-fledged apartheid. [1] Meanwhile, Gaza is an open air prison with a million people trapped inside, under the strictest embargo. Since Israel controls its borders, air space and maritime space, it is still considered as an occupied territory. [1] https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/israeli-authorities-and-crimes-apartheid-and-persecution https://www.hrw.org/report/2021/04/27/threshold-crossed/isra...
- NeverFade 5y ago
  In other words, Jews in Israel are "illegal" and "apartheid", so 2,000 rockets fired at them by terrorist groups are justified. You pretend to care about "human rights", but what you're actually doing is demonizing 7 million Jews living in Israel, to justify genocidal violence against them.
  - Udik 5y ago
    No, illegal settlements outside the proper borders of Israel are illegal, and the situation they create there is one of apartheid. What's hard to understand about this?
    - NeverFade 5y ago
      The 2,000 rockets have been fired at Tel Aviv, Ramat Gan, and other cities at the heart of Israel.

yostrovs 5y ago

The building was destroyed after providing notice to the occupants, allowing the AP staff to take their computers and leave. So it was not an attempt to silence reporting in the region, as the article claims.

totetsu 5y ago
That's not a very sound line of reasoning... What has having ones computer got to do with not being silenced by your office being leveled in an airstrike?
haunter 5y ago
>The building was destroyed after providing notice to the occupants Thanks I've been looking for this I watched the BBC live reports where it collapsed https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-57114168 https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-middle-east-57114168 But then I was searching around and found this video (and others) where people were standing with cameras and such as if they knew it was going to be destroyed https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEoOZ_Oxsw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAEoOZ_Oxsw So yeah I didn't know IDF gave early warning
- neom 5y ago
  Thanks for posting the youtube link. Very interesting to me how precise the targeting is... I guess rocket/bombing tech has gotten super good since I was a kid eh?

jokoon 5y ago

I've recently learned that the Fatah (Mamoud Abbas being the palestinian elected leader) and the Hamas are rivals and there is violence between the two camps. Iran also have a lot of influence with those affairs. When you have insurgents who hide into the population, it becomes quite problematic. At some point, Israel might want to make palestinians understand that as long as they consent to be human shields, and as long as they agree with people launching rockets from civilian places, it won't prevent them to bomb civilian buildings where terrorists hide. Israel wants Palestinians to not tolerate rocket attacks. As long as the Hamas aims rockets towards citizen, it's hard to argue that Israel shouldn't counter attack when the Hamas is using human shields.

totetsu 5y ago
Yeah silly Palestinians. If they only stopped tolerating people putting their lives an property in danger...
- petra 5y ago
  They made that mess for themselves. If they acted reasonably decades ago, in the Oslo peace deal, and afterwards, Some solution could have been found for 99% of the issues(given enough pressure from the world, because some parts of the Israeli public did resist the peace process ), and we all could just live peacefully in the region. But in reality, either they are motivated by Islam, and by wishful thinking that Israel won't exist in the region - or they make some really dumb decisions, like choosing Hamas, an religiously extreme, terrorist organization, in their democratic elections as their representative in the peace process. It's just sad. So much blood fear and destruction, and for what ? for nothing.
- jokoon 5y ago
  I'm not criticizing palestinians, but they're being brainwashed by extremism and are refusing to negotiate. They're politically disorganized and can't really agree on what to do. Not to mention Egypt is refusing to help them. It's an impossible situation. Israel will never be able to trust Palestinians because of terrorist attacks, and Palestinians will always end up impoverished and encircled. Meanwhile, Iran sends weapons.

beshrkayali 5y ago

According to Al Jazeera (who's offices were also in that tower), there were sixty residential apartments in there. Sixty families at least have lost their home, possessions and memories.

NeverFade 5y ago
Hundreds of Israeli families lost their homes, hit by over 2,000 Hamas rockets deliberately targeting civilians. Israel warned this building's residents so none got hurt by airstrike. However, just two hours ago an Israeli building was hit by Hamas rockets and a man was killed: https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/one-person-said-critically-wounded-in-ramat-gan-rocket-strike/ https://www.timesofisrael.com/liveblog_entry/one-person-said... So far 10 Israeli people were killed in these rocket attacks over the past week alone.
- mam3 5y ago
  Im confused at the nerve of the comparison everytime. What hope do you have when you had the misfortune to be born and live in gaza ? Literally what ELSE do you have to do when you are basically jailed in 5km^2, other than building and sending rockets to the entity jailing you. Of course they are going to rebel. Its literally the plot of the movie "the maze". What else would you do ?
  - NeverFade 5y ago
    Mexicans in Juarez also have a pretty bad life compared to Americans in San Diego. If Mexican in Juarez fire 2,000 rockets at San Diego killing and wounding dozens of Americans, the US should just let it slide because those Mexicans are poor and unhappy?
    - mam3 5y ago
      This comparison makes no sense. Mexicans in juarez are not blocked to go ANYWHERE, BY the us. Someone born in gaza the past 30 years or more is literally blocked BY ISRAEL to go anywhere else in the world. With no hope, literally anyone would start rebelling and building rockets.

seif_madc 5y ago

just screw the world and all the fake "human rights" voices all over it, i'll break it to you in a simple way you stupid people out there, imagine you were living in your house which you call home because it was your father's land and house and grandfather's and grand grand father's for centuries, and then suddenly due to some political shit and some shitty word order, your house or "part" of your house was given as a gift to some entity or someone who claims that it's his house not yours, and they have the right to occupy it, you tried to push back but you were overpowered by that shit and his justice league, the rest of the story is known, so please stop accusing people of terrorism, if it is me i'll not stop killing and destroying the intruder untill he is completely wiped out from the planet.

DanAtC 5y ago

Why are all the articles about this "[flagged]"? Edit: Looks like https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27166482 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27166482 is sticking to the front page. Edit 2: Nope! Also flagged