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Children aren't remotely comparable to yaughts. Being a child is the way every single citizen starts life, and how they do in that period has dramatic influenc

Children aren't remotely comparable to yaughts. Being a child is the way every single citizen starts life, and how they do in that period has dramatic influence on the rest of their lives. Society can't afford to leave all that only up to parents. You made a choice to not have kids, did you also make the choice to never interact with anybody else again? Because those people are only there because their parents chose to have kids, and you have an interest in how they turned out.

chii 5y ago
> did you also make the choice to never interact with anybody else again? interaction with other people are governed by law, and to some extend, cultural norms. Whether i choose to interact with people makes no difference to whether society has to bear the burden of the kids that the parents choose not to bear when they choose to have them. You're making an assumption that a poor parent will raise a bad kid, unless society will chip in. I don't believe that. A smart parent will raise a good kid, whether they are poor or not. And society _already_ bear some burden, since k-12 education is free. Childcare at an even earlier age than k-12 is expensive because it is not scalable, and i'm questioning whether it is worth the cost. If the parent doesn't make enough to cover the childcare cost in their job, they can and should perform their own childcare duty. Parents that make more than their childcare cost would make the rational choice of paying for childcare, since they will still have excess money after paying. Or they can choose to do childcare themselves - as is their freedom and right. What i don't believe in is to have tax payers pay for the childcare. The high earning parent don't need it, and the low income earner is getting a huge benefit for little to no reward for the tax payer - and childcare doesnt get cheaper the more it is collectively paid.

chii 5y ago

> did you also make the choice to never interact with anybody else again? interaction with other people are governed by law, and to some extend, cultural norms. Whether i choose to interact with people makes no difference to whether society has to bear the burden of the kids that the parents choose not to bear when they choose to have them. You're making an assumption that a poor parent will raise a bad kid, unless society will chip in. I don't believe that. A smart parent will raise a good kid, whether they are poor or not. And society _already_ bear some burden, since k-12 education is free. Childcare at an even earlier age than k-12 is expensive because it is not scalable, and i'm questioning whether it is worth the cost. If the parent doesn't make enough to cover the childcare cost in their job, they can and should perform their own childcare duty. Parents that make more than their childcare cost would make the rational choice of paying for childcare, since they will still have excess money after paying. Or they can choose to do childcare themselves - as is their freedom and right. What i don't believe in is to have tax payers pay for the childcare. The high earning parent don't need it, and the low income earner is getting a huge benefit for little to no reward for the tax payer - and childcare doesnt get cheaper the more it is collectively paid.