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Forget politics, this man was a red pill ideologue who, among other things, would brag about the number of women he's impregnated [1]. If this is the hill anyon
by tmpz22 5y ago
Forget politics, this man was a red pill ideologue who, among other things, would brag about the number of women he's impregnated [1]. If this is the hill anyone wants to die on - holy cow.
[1]: https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b4tqe/i_am_antonio_garcia_martinez_a_tech_entrepreneur/ https://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/5b4tqe/i_am_antonio_g...
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- sonograph 5y ago> this man was a red pill ideologue What does a 'red pill ideologue' mean? Yes, I've seen the Matrix but I don't understand But wow, that Reddit post is shocking
- GuB-42 5y agoIt is a movement glorifying the "alpha male" idea. The strongest man rules and get all the women. It is called "red pill" because of the idea that it is the real truth of this world.
- tmpz22 5y agoPretty much end-game toxic masculinity - men blaming women for not wanting to sleep with them and promoting "pick-up artist" strategies like negging, gas-lighting, and other despicable behavior in an attempt to get laid. It grew into a fairly large subreddit.
- baby 5y agoOh boy, be prepared to rage. Just check r/redpill
- neom 5y agoNot easy watching, interrogation of a young man who took it to the end: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGFWovUuWak https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kGFWovUuWak
- mindcrime 5y agoThere's a sub-culture of men who identify as "The Red Pill" who harbor some, uh, non-mainstream, ideological beliefs. https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/ https://www.reddit.com/r/TheRedPill/
- MikeUt 5y agoThere's a documentary about one part of it: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Red_Pill Or you could look at the most extreme examples the other commenters are trying to present as the norm.
- SpicyLemonZest 5y agoThe goal, presumably, is to address the problem before people start feeling obligated to die on hills. This guy's made some very offensive comments, so I feel no pressure to defend him personally, but we've got to have a better process for deciding what's socially acceptable than "sometimes the eye of Twitter descends on you and you become unemployable".
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- pseudalopex 5y agoTry pregnant.
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- skavi 5y agothe OP?
- asdfasgasdgasdg 5y agoI'm on mobile right now, so I can't verify. But I don't think ctrl-f matches text in posts that are hidden due to low score. I would look in some of those.
- carreau 5y agoSearch just for "preg" or read at maximum 3 sentences from linked posts. "pregnant" is the 60th word.
- hn8788 5y agoIt doesn't sound like he's bragging about it, he's mentioning shitty things he's done and how it's common among people in SV. I had to look it up, but calling yourself a "wastrel" doesn't sound like bragging. n.One who wastes, especially one who wastes money; a profligate n.An idler or a loafer. n.Anything cast away as spoiled in the making, or bad; waste; refuse.
- pseudalopex 5y agoDo you think calling yourself a bad boy is self criticism? He wants people to see him as a scoundrel with a heart of gold. Nothing I've seen from him has been regretful or contrite.
- Swenrekcah 5y agoI’m kind of torn on this. I don’t know the guy or of his existence until now, but from his own into to that AMA he’s the kind of person that brags about having no loyalty or integrity so I don’t think it’s reasonable to expect any in return from his employer. However this must all have been clear from day 1 so this can only be a PR move on Apple’s behalf which is not a great look either. There are no winners in this story, only losers. Including society which got thrown yet another polarising piece of social media drama.
- roenxi 5y ago> If this is the hill anyone wants to die on - holy cow Which hill do you think is appropriate? The line has to be drawn at least a standard deviation below average behaviour or there will be a lot of unemployed people. Especially with the context that nearly everyone has socially unacceptable views, most just usually try not to talk about them. I'm sure it'll come out in the conversation, but none of the commentors are rushing to accuse him of doing anything. It takes 2 to get a woman pregnant.
- tmpz22 5y agoThis is not a debate about "cancel culture". This is about a awful person who should not be hired into a leadership role where he is directly responsible for people he has treated horrifically in the past. And, like most narcissists, the evidence is in his own public statements and actions - not applied by the media or any outside group.
- roenxi 5y ago> ...people he has treated horrifically in the past... That is a bit of an escalation from being an ideologue. What are you actually unhappy about here? What do you think he's done? > This is about a awful person who should not be hired into a leadership role... Well again, being an awful person and being unqualified for leadership are different things and need to be argued separately. There are lots of great business leaders who were awful people. Eg, Henry Ford was awarded the Grand Cross of the German Eagle by the Nazis. It isn't like the ranks of business have or ever will be made up of exclusively nice or praiseworthy people.
- taylodl 5y agoI’m tired of this trope. It excuses boorish behavior and ignores all the business leaders who haven’t acted like asses.
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