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<@kline> whats best is for everyone just to sit tight and wait for it to pan out, freenode isnt going to implode overnight no matter what random pastebins say

<@kline> whats best is for everyone just to sit tight and wait for it to pan out, freenode isnt going to implode overnight no matter what random pastebins say <@Fuchs> as it is clearly stated in my letter, this was a draft that was not supposed to be published, but a draft from a colleague that linked to mine got indexed by a search engine and found <@Fuchs> as of right now, none of us resigned, freenode is still ran by the same volunteers that ran it for the past 2 decades, and the rest is rumours and hearsay, we'll gladly officially communicate when we can, until then I'd suggest taking any rants, pastebins, articles and the likes with a grain of salt

jrochkind1 5y ago
Uh, WEIRD. Why would someone who wrote that email draft now say his own email was "rumours and hearsay"? That just makes the whole thing sound even sketchier. Also, geez, how can anyone who's an IT professional in 2021 think they can put something on the public internet without auth and keep it private? Really?
- arbitrage 5y ago
  Possibly threatened with legal action?
  - SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
    The think this seems likely. Threatened, or realized some immediate issue naming their replacement already. It seems like someone only jumped the gun on this information getting out, not that it wouldn’t come to be.
- bbarnett 5y ago
  It is trivial to impersonate someone over IRC, if you control the infrastructure. Not saying it is so, but...
  - throwawaylolx 5y ago
    Well, all the links at the bottom of the letter seem to 404, so it seems like they didn't mean to publish this yet.
    - ilkkao 5y ago
      The link was circulating in IRC. It was pasted to a channel I'm following with a comment "changes in Freenode". Looked interesting enough to be a HN submission. I've no knowledge how freenode is actually managed. Apologies if it wasn't meant to go out. Seems that I don't have an option to delete it.
- simonh 5y ago
  It's possible when writing this the author was not in possession of the full facts, and misunderstood the situation. Also at the time of writing it wasn't intended to be kept private, it's explicitly a message intended to be published at some point. It just never was and the situation changed, it's just an oversight.
- arghwhat 5y ago
  1. That's what a draft is: A non-final document, which may never be used. Drafting a resignation and then not using it isn't unusual. 2. The internet is much bigger than you think. The document is probably more likely to be found and publicized from your drawer at home than being found on a random server on the internet. People fight for visibility for a reason. Only when several documents link to each other, the risk of being found goes up...
  - ipaddr 5y ago
    Not too many engines indexing my drawer at home. One link to your document will still get it indexed or no links but using chrome.
    - arghwhat 5y ago
      Not too many engines indexing the web as a whole either. One person hearing about your document or finding it themselves is all it takes in the real world as well.
      - ipaddr 5y ago
        But to retrieve the document you would have to go in my drawer? Not the same at all. Maybe if the draw was outside and there was a camera showing inside of the draw and if anyone could travel at the speed of light. Still not the same at all.
        seba_dos1 5y ago
        It is the same. If I'd like to share a draft letter with someone over IRC's DM or some internal IRC channel, I'd upload it to my HTTP server's "stuff" folder with file listing disabled and paste the link.
        ipaddr 5y ago
        If you dare open that in your chrome browser your extensions, your seo toolbar and google will know and come and index those files for you. To get access to a random's person house let alone drawer would be impossible and extremely costly and risky in most scenerios.
Aeolun 5y ago
None of you resigned, but all of you had a letter ready to go. On your personal domain. Don’t tell me nothing is going on and everything is alright. Seriously, wtf?
- ta988 5y ago
  Maybe something was going to change, they threatened to resign and they reverted the change. Wait and see.
wrycoder 5y ago
same volunteers Here is their 2017 blog about resignations: https://freenode.net/news/recent-events-and-future-changes https://freenode.net/news/recent-events-and-future-changes

jrochkind1 5y ago

Uh, WEIRD. Why would someone who wrote that email draft now say his own email was "rumours and hearsay"? That just makes the whole thing sound even sketchier. Also, geez, how can anyone who's an IT professional in 2021 think they can put something on the public internet without auth and keep it private? Really?

arbitrage 5y ago
Possibly threatened with legal action?
- SV_BubbleTime 5y ago
  The think this seems likely. Threatened, or realized some immediate issue naming their replacement already. It seems like someone only jumped the gun on this information getting out, not that it wouldn’t come to be.
bbarnett 5y ago
It is trivial to impersonate someone over IRC, if you control the infrastructure. Not saying it is so, but...
- throwawaylolx 5y ago
  Well, all the links at the bottom of the letter seem to 404, so it seems like they didn't mean to publish this yet.
  - ilkkao 5y ago
    The link was circulating in IRC. It was pasted to a channel I'm following with a comment "changes in Freenode". Looked interesting enough to be a HN submission. I've no knowledge how freenode is actually managed. Apologies if it wasn't meant to go out. Seems that I don't have an option to delete it.
simonh 5y ago
It's possible when writing this the author was not in possession of the full facts, and misunderstood the situation. Also at the time of writing it wasn't intended to be kept private, it's explicitly a message intended to be published at some point. It just never was and the situation changed, it's just an oversight.
arghwhat 5y ago
1. That's what a draft is: A non-final document, which may never be used. Drafting a resignation and then not using it isn't unusual. 2. The internet is much bigger than you think. The document is probably more likely to be found and publicized from your drawer at home than being found on a random server on the internet. People fight for visibility for a reason. Only when several documents link to each other, the risk of being found goes up...
- ipaddr 5y ago
  Not too many engines indexing my drawer at home. One link to your document will still get it indexed or no links but using chrome.
  - arghwhat 5y ago
    Not too many engines indexing the web as a whole either. One person hearing about your document or finding it themselves is all it takes in the real world as well.
    - ipaddr 5y ago
      But to retrieve the document you would have to go in my drawer? Not the same at all. Maybe if the draw was outside and there was a camera showing inside of the draw and if anyone could travel at the speed of light. Still not the same at all.
      - seba_dos1 5y ago
        It is the same. If I'd like to share a draft letter with someone over IRC's DM or some internal IRC channel, I'd upload it to my HTTP server's "stuff" folder with file listing disabled and paste the link.
        ipaddr 5y ago
        If you dare open that in your chrome browser your extensions, your seo toolbar and google will know and come and index those files for you. To get access to a random's person house let alone drawer would be impossible and extremely costly and risky in most scenerios.

Aeolun 5y ago

None of you resigned, but all of you had a letter ready to go. On your personal domain. Don’t tell me nothing is going on and everything is alright. Seriously, wtf?

ta988 5y ago
Maybe something was going to change, they threatened to resign and they reverted the change. Wait and see.

wrycoder 5y ago

same volunteers Here is their 2017 blog about resignations: https://freenode.net/news/recent-events-and-future-changes https://freenode.net/news/recent-events-and-future-changes