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Does anybody have a good book or good resources for nuclear powered merchant marine? Naively it makes sense that nuclear power could support much larger ships a

Does anybody have a good book or good resources for nuclear powered merchant marine? Naively it makes sense that nuclear power could support much larger ships and go much faster than diesel, but i don't know how true that actually is.

coryrc 5y ago
Large cargo ships are displacement hulls (because they are 10x more efficient than planing hulls) but are limited to a top speed proportional to the square root of the length, so they will not be "much faster".
hindsightbias 5y ago
https://www.amazon.com/Story-Savannah-Labor-Management-Publications-Industrial/dp/0674839617 https://www.amazon.com/Story-Savannah-Labor-Management-Publi... https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/63584 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/63584
helsinkiandrew 5y ago
Apart from (Soviet) ice breakers Nuclear powered merchant ships haven't had a successful history. I guess politically most states don't want nuclear technology to spread or let nuclear material into the wrong hands - by their nature cargo ships travel and would be an easy target for hijacking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion#Civilian_nuclear_ships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion#Civi...
klondike_ 5y ago
The US tried this concept at one point with the nuclear powered NS Savannah, which was a cargo/passenger ship. Unfortunately it was already outdated by the time it was built, unable to accommodate the modular containers taking over the shipping industry. It was mostly a novelty at the time and was expensive to run. Still though it seems nuclear would be a good fit for shipping. Most large ships use electric motors for their propellers anyways, and the US Navy has extensive experience deploying reactors in submarines. Theoretically you would only need to refuel such a ship every 10 years or so. Fears about terrorism or contamination will probably prevent such a ship from being made any time soon, not to mention the lack of infrastructure.
- nradov 5y ago
  Large merchant ships don't use electric motors. The propeller is directly driven by a large diesel engine through a mechanical transmission because that is the cheapest and most efficient design.
  - VBprogrammer 5y ago
    They don't even use a transmission in most cases. The propeller is direct driven, the engine itself can be started in reverse to go astern.
lardo 5y ago
https://i.imgur.com/9anWCXD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/9anWCXD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/IpYrxLs.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/IpYrxLs.jpeg

coryrc 5y ago

Large cargo ships are displacement hulls (because they are 10x more efficient than planing hulls) but are limited to a top speed proportional to the square root of the length, so they will not be "much faster".

hindsightbias 5y ago

https://www.amazon.com/Story-Savannah-Labor-Management-Publications-Industrial/dp/0674839617 https://www.amazon.com/Story-Savannah-Labor-Management-Publi... https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/63584 https://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/63584

helsinkiandrew 5y ago

Apart from (Soviet) ice breakers Nuclear powered merchant ships haven't had a successful history. I guess politically most states don't want nuclear technology to spread or let nuclear material into the wrong hands - by their nature cargo ships travel and would be an easy target for hijacking. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion#Civilian_nuclear_ships https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_marine_propulsion#Civi...

klondike_ 5y ago

The US tried this concept at one point with the nuclear powered NS Savannah, which was a cargo/passenger ship. Unfortunately it was already outdated by the time it was built, unable to accommodate the modular containers taking over the shipping industry. It was mostly a novelty at the time and was expensive to run. Still though it seems nuclear would be a good fit for shipping. Most large ships use electric motors for their propellers anyways, and the US Navy has extensive experience deploying reactors in submarines. Theoretically you would only need to refuel such a ship every 10 years or so. Fears about terrorism or contamination will probably prevent such a ship from being made any time soon, not to mention the lack of infrastructure.

nradov 5y ago
Large merchant ships don't use electric motors. The propeller is directly driven by a large diesel engine through a mechanical transmission because that is the cheapest and most efficient design.
- VBprogrammer 5y ago
  They don't even use a transmission in most cases. The propeller is direct driven, the engine itself can be started in reverse to go astern.

lardo 5y ago

https://i.imgur.com/9anWCXD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/9anWCXD.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/IpYrxLs.jpeg https://i.imgur.com/IpYrxLs.jpeg