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The most likely explanation is that coordinated mass reporting of these posts is triggering removal algorithms. In that sense, the "glitch" is that the removal
by ttmb 5y ago
The most likely explanation is that coordinated mass reporting of these posts is triggering removal algorithms.
In that sense, the "glitch" is that the removal algorithms are susceptible to being gamed.
- newsclues 5y agoOr there is someone(s) within the organization that has moderation privilege and they are exploiting their access for ideological reasons. I think both are occurring in social media networks to some extent
- bern4444 5y agoI highly doubt that individuals at each company are actively manually deleting tweets or instagram posts.
- teclordphrack2 5y agoisrael has done more than that, so has the usa. Heck, you can get a check on the side to be an inside mole.
- abeppu 5y agoAsymptotically as the size of the staff that can delete things grows, the probability that at least one of them would be willing to delete things for "ideological purposes" will approach 1, right?
- snakeboy 5y agoThe internal monitoring and codified repercussions also grow at the same time, I'd hope..
- SpicyLemonZest 5y agoFor sure, and we may well end up seeing some number of content moderators fired. As with any major crisis, there's gonna be people who feel that it's worth losing their job over.
- pooya13 5y agoI highly doubt anyone will lose their job for censoring Palestinians if not rewarded for it. Facebook has been banning Palestinians or pages sympathetic to them for a while now without any consequences. I would actually argue the volume of censorship of Palestinians has increased as the deep state’s control over Facebook has increased.
- XorNot 5y agoModeration is not a highly paid position anywhere.
- TheGuyWhoCodes 5y agoOr keep posts up if they fit their ideology
- Afforess 5y agoTwitter literally did exactly that: https://twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1392262652156592144 https://twitter.com/swolecialism/status/1392262652156592144 More context: https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8b4x/twitter-said-it-restricted-palestinian-writers-account-by-accident https://www.vice.com/en/article/qj8b4x/twitter-said-it-restr... The censored tweets were _hand edited_.
- FDSGSG 5y agoMaybe not, but they certainly do worse: https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-insiders-saudi-arabia-spy/ https://www.wired.com/story/twitter-insiders-saudi-arabia-sp... https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/former-twitter-employees-charged-with-spying-for-saudi-arabia-by-digging-into-the-accounts-of-kingdom-critics/2019/11/06/2e9593da-00a0-11ea-8bab-0fc209e065a8_story.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/former-twit...
- at_a_remove 5y agoHeck, it even happens on TV ... look up "A staffer at local Fox affiliate Q13 has been fired after the station aired what appears to be a doctored video of President Donald Trump’s Tuesday night speech from the Oval Office." Sometime in 2019.
- newsclues 5y agoI doubt it’s not happening. To what extent, and if leadership knows and directs it are real questions.
- BelenusMordred 5y agoThe recent twitter hack exposed that certain topics could be boosted or hidden by low-level employees. No need for manual curation.
- Causality1 5y agoNever underestimate just how petty human beings can be.
- mc32 5y agoI think we have enough anecdotes from strong internal dissent from the past election cycle seems to indicate you are on the right track.
- inputError 5y agowonder if it's the same squad that sanitizes wikipedia articles vaguely critical of israel
- slg 5y agoWhich is already a "glitch" known, abused, and complained about by people all over the political spectrum in the US.
- prestigious 5y agoI mean lots of these posts are anti Semitic and pro terrorism. They perma banned trump for less.
- washadjeffmad 5y agoPalestinians are Semites. If you weren't aware, consider why. Israeli, Jewish, and zionist are not all different words for the same thing.
- zozbot234 5y agoArab Israelis are also Semites, and are just as much a target of anti-Israeli attitudes as Israeli Jews. The Palestinian identity is historically bound up with opposition to Israel which has often gone as far as outright hate, e.g. in Palestinian mass-media propaganda and early school education. This is what Israel has to work with, while seeking some sort of durable peace in the region. It's not an easy situation for them.
- ttt0 5y ago> The Palestinian identity is historically bound up with opposition to Israel Yeah, I wonder why is that. It's not like they have any valid reason to be against Israel, like having their land being taken away from them in what is basically a lebensraum, so it's surely has to be just some kind of irrational hatred towards Jews.
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- zozbot234 5y ago> having their land being taken away from them in what is basically a lebensraum I will concede that this is a common framing of the facts from the Palestinian side. It's not nearly as easy to describe it as 'neutral' however, or to ascertain with any certainty what counts as any "valid reason" as opposed to "irrational hate".
- goatsi 5y agoThe Israeli government has a specialized unit specifically for reporting posts on social networks: https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/10292 https://www.adalah.org/en/content/view/10292 If it has been given the "trusted reporter" status that similar organizations have it could certainly be abused at times like this.
- Dah00n 5y agoIf it has been deemed a trusted reporter it is a bug. They are never to be trusted. The whole reason it exists is to get posts removed that doesn't break rules but is not pro-israel.
- darig 5y agoBy simple logic, "not pro-israel" = "antisemitic" Hilter says what?
- medina 5y agoMore on this: https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-israels-cyber-unit-and-extra-legal-content-take-downs https://www.lawfareblog.com/lawfare-podcast-israels-cyber-un... [T]he Israeli government’s “Cyber Unit” [is] an entity that, among other things, reaches out to major online platforms like Facebook and Twitter with requests that the platforms remove content. It’s one of a number of such agencies around the globe, which are known as Internet Referral Units. Earlier in April, the Israeli Supreme Court gave a green light to the unit’s activities, rejecting a legal challenge that charged the unit with infringing on constitutional rights.
- andyxor 5y agoI think reporting posts promoting terrorism on social media is a reasonable thing to do, one doesn't have to be part of some government-sponsored conspiracy group for this, as some allege here
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- leke 5y agoI'm wondering if this "coordinated mass reporting" has been automated, in a botnet kind of a way. This happened to a youtuber I follow recently, who has his channel demonetised for hate speech. A Youtube rep stated that it looked like incorrect flagging by viewers.