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I think the parent comment is saying we are dependent on foreign oil and this will alleviate that.

TheAdamAndChe 5y ago
Not only that, but global warming is slated to destabilize many regions of the planet. The quicker we can move en masse away from oil, the less severe that transition will be.
hinkley 5y ago
Which is a terrible, terrible plan. "When goods do not cross borders then soldiers will." Trade keeps people from trying to take things, and when they take them, they prefer to take them off of corpses. Isolation leads to jealousy and we're already isolated enough.
- ragona 5y ago
  You’re saying we should be in favor of fossil fuels because it will.. prevent war? Gotta imagine the Middle East might have some experience here with regards to the peace bringing properties of oil.
  - hinkley 5y ago
    I'm saying that by appealing to people's sense of ultimate self-reliance you are creating a monster.
- i_haz_rabies 5y ago
  Dependence on imported energy would be a key factor in a South China Sea conflict. It was a driver of Japan's expansionism in WWII.
- Gabriel_Martin 5y ago
  Ah oil, the path to peace for so many countries! No but in all seriousness there certainly must be better goods to trade which could replace oil, if peace is the goal.
nradov 5y ago
The US hasn't been dependent on foreign oil for years.
- ansible 5y ago
  > The US hasn't been dependent on foreign oil for years. Years? No: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc... Last year, yes, for the first time since 1949. But even in 2020, we were importing more crude oil than we were exporting. The difference was due to the refined products that we exported.
- teclordphrack2 5y ago
  Hence the isolationism in some.
aeyes 5y ago
>95% of Uranium is imported as well https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/where-our-uranium-comes-from.php https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/where-our-uraniu...

Not only that, but global warming is slated to destabilize many regions of the planet. The quicker we can move en masse away from oil, the less severe that transition will be.

hinkley 5y ago

Which is a terrible, terrible plan. "When goods do not cross borders then soldiers will." Trade keeps people from trying to take things, and when they take them, they prefer to take them off of corpses. Isolation leads to jealousy and we're already isolated enough.

ragona 5y ago
You’re saying we should be in favor of fossil fuels because it will.. prevent war? Gotta imagine the Middle East might have some experience here with regards to the peace bringing properties of oil.
- hinkley 5y ago
  I'm saying that by appealing to people's sense of ultimate self-reliance you are creating a monster.
i_haz_rabies 5y ago
Dependence on imported energy would be a key factor in a South China Sea conflict. It was a driver of Japan's expansionism in WWII.
Gabriel_Martin 5y ago
Ah oil, the path to peace for so many countries! No but in all seriousness there certainly must be better goods to trade which could replace oil, if peace is the goal.

nradov 5y ago

The US hasn't been dependent on foreign oil for years.

ansible 5y ago
> The US hasn't been dependent on foreign oil for years. Years? No: https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-products/imports-and-exports.php https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/oil-and-petroleum-produc... Last year, yes, for the first time since 1949. But even in 2020, we were importing more crude oil than we were exporting. The difference was due to the refined products that we exported.
teclordphrack2 5y ago
Hence the isolationism in some.

aeyes 5y ago

>95% of Uranium is imported as well https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/where-our-uranium-comes-from.php https://www.eia.gov/energyexplained/nuclear/where-our-uraniu...