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Hey, nice! I have a notes file experimenting with a similar tree-style minimalist data notation; it's definitely an area that needs more exploration. I like wh

by lambda 5y ago

Hey, nice! I have a notes file experimenting with a similar tree-style minimalist data notation; it's definitely an area that needs more exploration. I like what you've done with it, I'll need to take a closer look. While I was thinking about it, I also decided to take a look into prior art, which took me all the way back to Landin's "The Next 700 Programming Languages" from 1966 which introduced the hypothetical language ISWIM, which was the first to introduce indentation based syntax and inspired the ML and Haskell family of languages (https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Landin66.pdf https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~crary/819-f09/Landin66.pdf) It wasn't exactly what I was looking for, but it's fascinating to see how long we've been thinking about these kinds of issues.

breck 5y ago
Yes, and surprisingly there are not too many that use any indentation based syntax (about 1 in 50). However, of the ones that do (abc, aldor, boo, buddyscript, cobra, coffeescript, csl, curry, elixir, f-sharp, genie, haml, haskell, inform, iswim, literate-coffeescript, livescript, madcap-vi, madcap, makefile, markdown, miranda, nemerle, net-format, nim, occam, org, promal, python, restructuredtext, sass, scss, spin, stylus, xl-programming-language, yaml) there are some real gems. Some more interesting read's in this space: 2003 - Egil Möller's I-expressions - https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-49/srfi-49.html https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-49/srfi-49.html 1984 - Alan Kay's 3-D spreadsheet - http://worrydream.com/refs/Kay%20-%20Computer%20Software%20-%20SciAm.pdf http://worrydream.com/refs/Kay%20-%20Computer%20Software%20-... 1972 - Mark Wells' A Review of Two-Dimensional Programming Languages - http://sci-hub.cc/10.1145/942576.807009 http://sci-hub.cc/10.1145/942576.807009
- lambda 5y ago
  Cool! Thanks for some more reading and inspiration. Here's what I have in my notes buffer; I hadn't gotten much further than this. Ssn: /([0-9]{9})|([0-9]{3})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{4})/\1\2\3/ People: Table first: String last: String dob: Date ssn: SSN Csv headings: True load people.csv as: People select first last dob filter dob.age > 21 Well, I had some discussion, alternate forms of the syntax, links to prior art, etc, but not much else worth sharing. Will have to add your TreeNotation and Ohayo to that list, as well as these other links you've shared.
  - breck 5y ago
    Very nice! The nice thing about these kinds of notations is that they last. Simplicity is timeless. I can immediately grok exactly what you are doing here. :)

by lambda 5y ago

breck 5y ago

Yes, and surprisingly there are not too many that use any indentation based syntax (about 1 in 50). However, of the ones that do (abc, aldor, boo, buddyscript, cobra, coffeescript, csl, curry, elixir, f-sharp, genie, haml, haskell, inform, iswim, literate-coffeescript, livescript, madcap-vi, madcap, makefile, markdown, miranda, nemerle, net-format, nim, occam, org, promal, python, restructuredtext, sass, scss, spin, stylus, xl-programming-language, yaml) there are some real gems. Some more interesting read's in this space: 2003 - Egil Möller's I-expressions - https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-49/srfi-49.html https://srfi.schemers.org/srfi-49/srfi-49.html 1984 - Alan Kay's 3-D spreadsheet - http://worrydream.com/refs/Kay%20-%20Computer%20Software%20-%20SciAm.pdf http://worrydream.com/refs/Kay%20-%20Computer%20Software%20-... 1972 - Mark Wells' A Review of Two-Dimensional Programming Languages - http://sci-hub.cc/10.1145/942576.807009 http://sci-hub.cc/10.1145/942576.807009

lambda 5y ago
Cool! Thanks for some more reading and inspiration. Here's what I have in my notes buffer; I hadn't gotten much further than this. Ssn: /([0-9]{9})|([0-9]{3})-([0-9]{2})-([0-9]{4})/\1\2\3/ People: Table first: String last: String dob: Date ssn: SSN Csv headings: True load people.csv as: People select first last dob filter dob.age > 21 Well, I had some discussion, alternate forms of the syntax, links to prior art, etc, but not much else worth sharing. Will have to add your TreeNotation and Ohayo to that list, as well as these other links you've shared.
- breck 5y ago
  Very nice! The nice thing about these kinds of notations is that they last. Simplicity is timeless. I can immediately grok exactly what you are doing here. :)