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There is a nonzero risk to the vaccination. I really don't understand why you consider the plight of the people who can't get vaccinated, and dismiss the plight

There is a nonzero risk to the vaccination. I really don't understand why you consider the plight of the people who can't get vaccinated, and dismiss the plight of the people who die or come down with severe disabilities from the vaccination.

p49k 5y ago
The mental disease of many anti-intellectuals and conspiracy theorists is the inability or refusal to understand scale and proportion; it's the single source of an enormous amount of flawed logic. Scale and proportion is the reason. 7 per 1,000,000 risk of blood clotting if you are a woman between 18-49 (and basically no risk if you're a man or outside that range, or use one of the vaccines that have not shown this risk). This is on the level of shark attacks and getting hit by lightning. Actually getting COVID has more serious risks and a much higher rate of being affected by them. We regularly ask of citizens to do things that have a 7 per 1,000,000 risk of injury; it's a reasonable ask.
- kofddfjdfdfdff 5y ago
  Your comparison does not make sense, though. The question is, how many people who are not at risk from the disease do you have to vaccinate, and how many people are there who can not be vaccinated and would contract Covid-19. Let's say with your numbers there are thousands of (young) people who die from the vaccination. How many people who can't be vaccinated would die if those young people would not get the vaccination? What other risky things to we ask citizens to do, exactly? People certainly choose to do other risky things. But how many are mandated?
  - p49k 5y ago
    Even if we're only talking about 18-29, there have been 2,100 deaths from COVID in that age group in the US already. Even in the most generous interpretation, that means that it would be at least 10 times as dangerous for someone in that age group not to get vaccinated than it would to be vaccinated. The numbers are so blatantly obviously in favor of having everyone vaccinated. Anyway, I'm done feeding a troll account created today.
    - kofddfjdfdfdff 5y ago
      That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about getting vaccinated to protect other people, not oneself. The young people who died probably all had comorbidities, so for a young person without any comorbidities, the risk profile is probably very different. Anyway, your arrogance is impressive. You haven't really grasped the issue, but you are absolutely full of yourself.

p49k 5y ago

The mental disease of many anti-intellectuals and conspiracy theorists is the inability or refusal to understand scale and proportion; it's the single source of an enormous amount of flawed logic. Scale and proportion is the reason. 7 per 1,000,000 risk of blood clotting if you are a woman between 18-49 (and basically no risk if you're a man or outside that range, or use one of the vaccines that have not shown this risk). This is on the level of shark attacks and getting hit by lightning. Actually getting COVID has more serious risks and a much higher rate of being affected by them. We regularly ask of citizens to do things that have a 7 per 1,000,000 risk of injury; it's a reasonable ask.

kofddfjdfdfdff 5y ago
Your comparison does not make sense, though. The question is, how many people who are not at risk from the disease do you have to vaccinate, and how many people are there who can not be vaccinated and would contract Covid-19. Let's say with your numbers there are thousands of (young) people who die from the vaccination. How many people who can't be vaccinated would die if those young people would not get the vaccination? What other risky things to we ask citizens to do, exactly? People certainly choose to do other risky things. But how many are mandated?
- p49k 5y ago
  Even if we're only talking about 18-29, there have been 2,100 deaths from COVID in that age group in the US already. Even in the most generous interpretation, that means that it would be at least 10 times as dangerous for someone in that age group not to get vaccinated than it would to be vaccinated. The numbers are so blatantly obviously in favor of having everyone vaccinated. Anyway, I'm done feeding a troll account created today.
  - kofddfjdfdfdff 5y ago
    That's not what we are talking about. We are talking about getting vaccinated to protect other people, not oneself. The young people who died probably all had comorbidities, so for a young person without any comorbidities, the risk profile is probably very different. Anyway, your arrogance is impressive. You haven't really grasped the issue, but you are absolutely full of yourself.