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Only if you tolerate devices with non-free software.
by swiley 5y ago
Only if you tolerate devices with non-free software.
- ethbr0 5y agoLike any TV?
- swiley 5y agoYeah or anything else with non-free firmware.
- doggodaddo78 5y agoSo, everything practical.
- wutXthree 5y agoIf you bought it, you own it. Does your DVD player hardware come with a license agreement?
- kadoban 5y agoI can't tell if I'm missing something here because for some reason I think you're expecting the answer to be "no"? But, yes DVD players come with license agreements, EULAs.
- wutXthree 5y agoHunh? So you are saying that if I buy the DVD player at https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-dvd-player-with-hd-upconversion-black/4790739.p?skuId=4790739 https://www.bestbuy.com/site/sony-dvd-player-with-hd-upconve... that I'm agreeing to an "EULA" that doesn't seem to exist on the site and that is apparently not mentioned at all before purchase? Please tell me you're joking.
- kadoban 5y agoDo you live in the USA? Very likely yes that DVD player will come with a EULA (End User License Agreement) in/on the box when it arrives. Other places I'm not sure, but I'd guess you'll get one anyway. Will they hold up in court? Who knows. But look and you're likely to find one they'll at least pretend applies to you. (And to be clear, yes I agree that this is _ridiculous_)
- kuschku 5y agoIf you're in the EU, that DVD player won't have a EULA attached. If you're in the US, it will.
- swiley 5y agoThe last one I bought came with a printout of the GPL2.
- jhardy54 5y agoYes.
- doggodaddo78 5y agoYou tell me because I don't own a DVD player. :)
- neolog 5y agoCommercial displays are a solution here, though they're expensive.
- danielheath 5y agoExpensive compared to the advertising-subsidised consumer version, maybe.
- ethbr0 5y agoExpensive compared to retail-volume models. This is also a fight against manufacturing economies of scale.
- slimsag 5y agoSamsung sells "Commercial signage displays" to people, $1k for a 65" display. e.g. the Samsung QB65R on Amazon So yeah it's like $100-200 more expensive, but hardly seems.. unapproachable?
- bonestamp2 5y agoDon't put your wifi credentials into your TV, then you've effectively got a giant monitor/commercial display. If you're feeling especially crafty, open the back of your TV and disconnect the wifi/bluetooth board. It's a discrete board in all of my TVs of different brands. I assume they build them this way so they can use the same network board design/production for years and just upgrade the main logic board in newer models.
- JetAlone 5y agoCan't say I'm planning to buy a TV anytime soon but that's good advice, thank you.
- SilverRed 5y ago>Don't put your wifi credentials into your TV Amazon has a solution to this. If your tv is within wifi range of an amazon device, your TV will be able to connect to a network. It might even be your neighbors device.
- totetsu 5y agoNever needed a TV once since I was old enough for P2P to be invented
- Lammy 5y agoOr your neighbors do.