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You should realize that HN audience is old and graying, I was really looking forward to new tech forums populated by younger people, but havent seen any popular
by cblconfederate 5y ago
You should realize that HN audience is old and graying, I was really looking forward to new tech forums populated by younger people, but havent seen any popular ones.
- drannex 5y agoI would highly suggest Tildes, it's a little more varying than HN with much better discussions. https://tildes.net/ https://tildes.net/ I'll drop a few invite codes below for anyone interested (if they are all used, let me know) https://tildes.net/register?code=I448A-IEYUI-UDNWH https://tildes.net/register?code=I448A-IEYUI-UDNWH https://tildes.net/register?code=VDTMC-SBJTQ-PTW9X https://tildes.net/register?code=VDTMC-SBJTQ-PTW9X https://tildes.net/register?code=HEX3N-VA48Z-AIJIT https://tildes.net/register?code=HEX3N-VA48Z-AIJIT https://tildes.net/register?code=7L0GO-L4BZ0-962ZN https://tildes.net/register?code=7L0GO-L4BZ0-962ZN Note: I am not affiliated with Tildes, just an active member who wants the community to grow.
- kossTKR 5y agoAll of them says invalid?
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- ajdude 5y agoToo late all gone
- stronsay 5y agoThey're all gone.
- ipaddr 5y agoThere is literally one or two comments if any on most articles. Some articles "Trump blog not lighting it up" and "Elon Musk is not your friends" are worse than anything that even appears on slashdot.
- vecinu 5y agoDid you spend some time reading these posts? I actually did and found them both interesting. The first confirms that once DJT was removed off of large platforms like Twitter, he lost a lot of followers and digital support, proof that large scale networks have a strong positive feedback loop. The second provides 2 videos that go into excruciating detail on why Elon Musk is a fake futurist, ruthless capitalist and overall a terrible person (Including working his factory workers at the TSLA factory through COVID forcefully, threatening their jobs and saying we will be at 0 cases by the end of April 2020). At the very least, you should dislike Elon for his anti-union, ruthlessly capitalistic approach to human labor and selfishness.
- bserge 5y agoLooks interesting, but I don't understand how it's supposed to grow with limited access. Imo, it's better to have free for all registration (maybe until it hits a certain number) and just block the unwanted users later. This invite only approach doesn't seem to be working all that well, I've been following Lobste.rs, from what I can tell it's got the same problems as HN with poor comments.
- Philip-J-Fry 5y agoI think there's quite a few young people here. Like you say, there's no many other tech forums. That's why this one is popular and why people come here.
- jollybean 5y agoActually, I think HN skews younger. The previous polls demonstrated this [1], this is an old link but I think it holds up. Also 'young people new to the job market' will probably always have a major mismatch with respect to expectations and values, it's probably been that way since the dawn of time. It took me 2 years just to get my head straight in a 'basic way' to even start to understand the professional world. Though I don't think it's fair to characterize any generation as 'lazy' though, that's not the right word - although Millenials are the first generation to not consider 'hard work' as a characteristic of their generation - this is an old data point (10 years old) which could either indicate a generational value shift - or - simply the fact that people of a certain age don't have that virtue (or don't think of themselves as that) but by the time they are 30 then their views and values shift etc.. TikTok surely can reach young people for certain kinds of jobs, not doubt. But it's also just a way to try to make money in any way they can. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2175588 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2175588
- Pfhreak 5y agoI'm sure the HN audience is a diverse set of folks across age ranges, there's just a culture of punching down at things they don't understand that's permitted here.
- acwan93 5y agoNot just here, Reddit and even MacRumors as well [1]. [1]: https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/ https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.5...
- banana_giraffe 5y agoI'll always remember /.'s take on the iPod: No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame. The history of what works vs what flops for similar products is always fascinating. The iPod is basically no more, but it sure did better than I ever thought it would.
- deanCommie 5y agoI think it would be uncontroversial to say that HackerNews would have had the exact same take if it existed. And I, at the time, had the exact same take. Despite being full of entrepreneurs and hackers, folks here are remarkably out of touch with the average consumer. It's not a damning criticism. Like I said, I include myself in this group that reacted with a resounding "What? WHY?" to almost every single Apple product launched under Steve Jobs's tenure, and was wrong every time. But it's a blindspot we should be cognizant of. And anything related with TikTok is the perfect confluence to lead to the most stale takes. Having said that, there is always a bit of a survivorship bias with these trends. I also was completely negative and dubious on Snapchat and turned out to have been vindicated. I do think TikTok is something different. It captures my imagination and attention better than any platform EVER, and I include YouTube and Instagram in this. Their recommendation algorithm is truly wonderous.
- barbazoo 5y agoI am graying but I wouldn't say I'm that old =) Btw, what's that new "tictac" you youngsters keep talking about...
- eberkund 5y agoForums are old and graying, the young people are on TikTok and other social media sites like this article suggests.
- cblconfederate 5y agoI disagree - reddit's audience is still young, but it's been taken over by politics spam
- adventured 5y agoImgur is in the same boat. It was a younger, energetic social network and the comments were mostly whimsical. I used to enjoy perusing its frontpage. Now it's heavy on political spam, talking points and general political propaganda, more or less cloning the descent you see on mainstream Reddit (plenty of niche subs are still great and mostly free of politics). I think it largely mirrors the manic obsession you see in certain parts of the US culture to hyper focus on politics 24/7.
- tyrust 5y ago> taken over by politics spam Not in my experience. You just have to subscribe to subreddits that don't have a political tilt. On rare occasions some subreddits go dark or sticky something political, but I'd hardly call that a take over.
- corytheboyd 5y agoThere are tons of slack/discord servers full of all kinds of people, you just have to look around.
- cblconfederate 5y agonot necessarily young, and the chatroom format is not engaging
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- sudosteph 5y agoThere's a weird gap between Gen Z and Millenials in how each of our generations experienced what "tech" is, and I do wonder how it affects the Gen Z tech world in particular. My generation, Millenials largely learned technology at a time when unpolished, non-standardized platforms were still the norm. We got comfortable with installing and rolling back drivers, setting up routers and printers, and navigating text-dominated forums and mailing-list email chains to troubleshoot issues. Lots of us were into PC gaming, and that kind of stuff was just expected if you wanted to play. When we went into technical fields later on, those skills were still really applicable. Meanwhile, my early-teen step-siblings have very similar interests to what I had back in the day (they enjoy playing games like roblox/minecraft on the computer, and FPS on consoles) - but are way less comfortable messing with the OS to troubleshoot vs what I was doing at their age. They were raised with tablets, where things just kind of work. When they do want to learn something, they pretty much always go to youtube first - and I'm not really sure if that's more effective or less effective than what we used to do, or if means they will have a harder time parsing technical docs later on in life. They've expressed interested in computer science fields, and I do think they'll be able to learn it just fine. In some ways, maybe the exposure to more polished UX will make their bar for those experiences higher than what my generation would accept.
- uncletaco 5y agoAre you sure this is a millennial/gen z problem and not just a techie/non techie one? Because this a really broad extrapolation.
- nine_k 5y agoOne has a hard time becoming a techie when all technology is indistinguishable from magic, sleek and impenetrable.
- vladvasiliu 5y agoI get the feeling you are right. I remember when I was kid during the late 90s and early 2000s, when these "unpolished" systems were the norm. A lot of my peers were starting to use them, but just like kids today, they didn't really look into how things worked, they weren't really curious about them, they didn't really tinker with them. They wouldn't go and update / rollback a driver. They would just complain if things didn't work, and maybe asked a "geek" friend for help. Today, if a random game doesn't work, people will just try the next one.
- jlengrand 5y agoMaybe because younger people simply don't use the same platforms we do. All younger folks I see use TikTok and Snap to communicate, interact and get their data feed.
- EamonnMR 5y agoText communication is being replaced by video, see TikTok