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Yes, I read it. I also read the data on pages 25-27. "Severe adverse event" is different than what I'm referring to, and are defined on page 9: > Serious adver
by timr 6y ago
Yes, I read it. I also read the data on pages 25-27. "Severe adverse event" is different than what I'm referring to, and are defined on page 9:
> Serious adverse events are defined as:
• Death;
• A life-threatening adverse event;
• Inpatient hospitalization or prolongation of existing hospitalization;
• A persistent or significant incapacity or substantial disruption of the ability to
conduct normal life functions;
• A congenital anomaly/birth defect;
• An important medical event that based on appropriate medical judgement
may jeopardize the individual and may require medical or surgical intervention to prevent one of the outcomes listed above.
It would not take very many such "serious adverse events" in a trial of 1100 before I'd argue that the vaccine is not safe for children.
- maxerickson 6y agoRight, you're are making a big deal out of a kid getting a headache sometime in a month.
- timr 6y agoNot "sometime in a month". Immediately after the vaccine. And yes -- for an illness that is essentially asymptomatic in children, that's a legitimate concern. Another way of putting it: this vaccine will make at least as many children as sick as getting Covid itself.
- maxerickson 6y agoYes, I misremembered the 30 day follow period. But it was indeed the 7 days following administration, not immediately after. I guess I don't see a headache or fever from the vaccine as the same kind of sick as Covid, so no need to pursue the conversation if we disagree on that.
- rel2thr 6y ago0.4% had life threatening side effects... more than a headache
- maxerickson 6y agoSure, other poster is not talking about 0.4%.
- pseudalopex 6y agoA serious adverse event doesn't have to be life threatening.[1] The difference between groups wasn't statistically significant. And there was no pattern either. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27114261 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=27114261