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> Is is absolutely stupid, or at least extremely naive, to believe that anything is ever "just a game" or "just a book" or "just a movie". You can't build a wal

> Is is absolutely stupid, or at least extremely naive, to believe that anything is ever "just a game" or "just a book" or "just a movie". You can't build a wall through your own brain. LMAO. Ok then. I guess all of every fiction is now invalid. Not sure how to argue against this idea, because it's just blatantly untrue IME. > You are making my point for me here. In a world where the only choice is between Hitler and Cthulhu, I'd go with Hitler, but I real life I'd much rather prefer to not be making this choice at all. My point is that it doesn't matter which one you choose because you're fucked anyhow, and the way in which you're fucked doesn't really matter. Furthermore, it's not real life, so you don't have to make that choice. > But Warhammer 40k is not real life, and so the question is who and why would want to role play in an imaginary world where you have to make that choice. Because it's fun to roleplay. It's fun to paint small plastic mans with cool aesthetics. I can think something's cool without agreeing with it.

PicassoCTs 5y ago
Fiction, enrages those engaging in religion, in fiction made real. Cause if tolkien could create LOTR, then the bible could be written by a nerd in the dessert, thousand years ago and all that remains of god is the Greatest Octalsided Dice. So no wonder fiction also enrages believers in societal fiction.
- dragonwriter 5y ago
  > Fiction, enrages those engaging in religion Only rather particular approaches to religion. Given the popularity of religion throughout history, fiction would basically be nonexistent if it had that effect on the religious generally. > Cause if tolkien could create LOTR Tolkien was religious.
  - matkoniecz 5y ago
    Also, for example the Bible has multiple short explicitly fictional stories embedded within. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parables_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parables_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable
  - mLuby 5y ago
    >> Cause if tolkien could create LOTR > Tolkien was religious. More precisely, Tolkien was a devout Catholic (as was his less-subtle-about-it friend and fellow world-builder CS Lewis), and his mythos reflects that: [x] The one true God who is good created all things including evil and gave humans the "gift of mortality." [x] The most powerful angel rebels against God, and this great enemy seeks to corrupt the world and its creatures. [x] A partially human hero is the first to return from beyond and by doing so overthrows the great enemy. I also find it interesting that while the Orcs in Tolkien's world are evil, he wouldn't go so far as calling them irredeemable.
    - dragonwriter 5y ago
      > More precisely, Tolkien was a devout Catholic (as was his less-subtle-about-it friend and fellow world-builder CS Lewis), Lewis was Anglican, not Catholic.
      - mLuby 5y ago
        Oh you're right, thanks!

PicassoCTs 5y ago

Fiction, enrages those engaging in religion, in fiction made real. Cause if tolkien could create LOTR, then the bible could be written by a nerd in the dessert, thousand years ago and all that remains of god is the Greatest Octalsided Dice. So no wonder fiction also enrages believers in societal fiction.

dragonwriter 5y ago
> Fiction, enrages those engaging in religion Only rather particular approaches to religion. Given the popularity of religion throughout history, fiction would basically be nonexistent if it had that effect on the religious generally. > Cause if tolkien could create LOTR Tolkien was religious.
- matkoniecz 5y ago
  Also, for example the Bible has multiple short explicitly fictional stories embedded within. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable_of_the_Prodigal_Son https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parables_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parables_of_Jesus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parable
- mLuby 5y ago
  >> Cause if tolkien could create LOTR > Tolkien was religious. More precisely, Tolkien was a devout Catholic (as was his less-subtle-about-it friend and fellow world-builder CS Lewis), and his mythos reflects that: [x] The one true God who is good created all things including evil and gave humans the "gift of mortality." [x] The most powerful angel rebels against God, and this great enemy seeks to corrupt the world and its creatures. [x] A partially human hero is the first to return from beyond and by doing so overthrows the great enemy. I also find it interesting that while the Orcs in Tolkien's world are evil, he wouldn't go so far as calling them irredeemable.
  - dragonwriter 5y ago
    > More precisely, Tolkien was a devout Catholic (as was his less-subtle-about-it friend and fellow world-builder CS Lewis), Lewis was Anglican, not Catholic.
    - mLuby 5y ago
      Oh you're right, thanks!