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This is fun, but in some ways it's too good - after a minute playing around with it I went to use command + W to close a terminal window and of course it closed

This is fun, but in some ways it's too good - after a minute playing around with it I went to use command + W to close a terminal window and of course it closed the browser window!

jhgb 5y ago
You meant "too bad", since you'd expect a "too good" implementation to actually close the terminal window?
- isomorph 5y ago
  It was "too good" in the sense that it was realistic enough that they forgot they were in a simulation, and thought the terminal window was a real native macOS window
  - jhgb 5y ago
    But a realistic simulation would have closed the terminal window.
    - Kiro 5y ago
      You're completely missing the point.
      - jhgb 5y ago
        That is always possible but also often far from certain.
        m_antis89 5y ago
        Do keep up your self-righteous attitude. It will benefit you greatly in 5-10 years and we need more like you.
        jhgb 5y ago
        Why, is something specific scheduled to happen in 5-10 years? Also, I'm not sure why I should consider myself "acting in accord with divine or moral law". I've never done even that, much less have I been "convinced of [my] own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others". That would seem utterly pointless.
        reasonabl_human 5y ago
        Responds to accusations of self-righteousness via a self-righteous pedantic critique. Too bad you can’t use the clown emoji on HN ;)
        jhgb 5y ago
        > self-righteous Again, I'm not even striving to be "acting in accord with divine or moral law". So, no.
        Aeolun 5y ago
        Wouldn’t self-righteous for an atheist be more like ‘acting in accordance with my personal moral law’? Or maybe more acting like your own personal morals are superior to everyone elses.
        jhgb 5y ago
        Maybe, but "my personal moral law" doesn't even come into play here, so I don't see how it could be possibly relevant. The topic is not a morality question so it's a category error.
        reasonabl_human 5y ago
        Perhaps “arrogance” was a better word for the OP to let you to chew on? Can you vet that definition for us too?
    - isomorph 5y ago
      It was realistic enough to make them expect that their keyboard shortcut would close the window. It wasn't realistic enough to actually do that. So the visual UI was too realistic for them to not have that expectation, but the behaviour was not realistic enough for it to fulfil the expectation.
      - jhgb 5y ago
        That's what seemed confusing to me, since "it was so realistic that it didn't do what I expected when I pressed a certain key combination" seemed like a weird juxtaposition. Maybe it was the dash...
chrismorgan 5y ago
When I was done looking around I tried the litmus test of Ctrl+W (erase word) in a terminal, given that Ctrl+U (erase line) had already worked. And that was the end of that (Linux, Ctrl+W closes the tab). :-)
ftio 5y ago
I did the same. After using the site's Spotlight once, I used Cmd+Space to try it again and was blown away by how complete the app list was. "The attention to detail is incredible," I thought. "These are almost the exact apps I have on my Mac." Haven't had my Saturday-morning coffee yet, but I think the realism and attention to detail are really impressive. (Check out the Terminal app if you haven't.)
FabHK 5y ago
> but in some ways it's too good Indeed. I typed "rm -rf /" into the "terminal" in the web browser, and it cost me quite some nerve to actually hit Enter.
- Th3dud3 5y ago
  Ha. I see you too entered the Matrix.

This is fun, but in some ways it's too good - after a minute playing around with it I went to use command + W to close a terminal window and of course it closed the browser window!

jhgb 5y ago

You meant "too bad", since you'd expect a "too good" implementation to actually close the terminal window?

isomorph 5y ago
It was "too good" in the sense that it was realistic enough that they forgot they were in a simulation, and thought the terminal window was a real native macOS window
- jhgb 5y ago
  But a realistic simulation would have closed the terminal window.
  - Kiro 5y ago
    You're completely missing the point.
    - jhgb 5y ago
      That is always possible but also often far from certain.
      - m_antis89 5y ago
        Do keep up your self-righteous attitude. It will benefit you greatly in 5-10 years and we need more like you.
        jhgb 5y ago
        Why, is something specific scheduled to happen in 5-10 years? Also, I'm not sure why I should consider myself "acting in accord with divine or moral law". I've never done even that, much less have I been "convinced of [my] own righteousness especially in contrast with the actions and beliefs of others". That would seem utterly pointless.
        reasonabl_human 5y ago
        Responds to accusations of self-righteousness via a self-righteous pedantic critique. Too bad you can’t use the clown emoji on HN ;)
        jhgb 5y ago
        > self-righteous Again, I'm not even striving to be "acting in accord with divine or moral law". So, no.
        Aeolun 5y ago
        Wouldn’t self-righteous for an atheist be more like ‘acting in accordance with my personal moral law’? Or maybe more acting like your own personal morals are superior to everyone elses.
        jhgb 5y ago
        Maybe, but "my personal moral law" doesn't even come into play here, so I don't see how it could be possibly relevant. The topic is not a morality question so it's a category error.
        reasonabl_human 5y ago
        Perhaps “arrogance” was a better word for the OP to let you to chew on? Can you vet that definition for us too?
  - isomorph 5y ago
    It was realistic enough to make them expect that their keyboard shortcut would close the window. It wasn't realistic enough to actually do that. So the visual UI was too realistic for them to not have that expectation, but the behaviour was not realistic enough for it to fulfil the expectation.
    - jhgb 5y ago
      That's what seemed confusing to me, since "it was so realistic that it didn't do what I expected when I pressed a certain key combination" seemed like a weird juxtaposition. Maybe it was the dash...

chrismorgan 5y ago

When I was done looking around I tried the litmus test of Ctrl+W (erase word) in a terminal, given that Ctrl+U (erase line) had already worked. And that was the end of that (Linux, Ctrl+W closes the tab). :-)

ftio 5y ago

I did the same. After using the site's Spotlight once, I used Cmd+Space to try it again and was blown away by how complete the app list was. "The attention to detail is incredible," I thought. "These are almost the exact apps I have on my Mac." Haven't had my Saturday-morning coffee yet, but I think the realism and attention to detail are really impressive. (Check out the Terminal app if you haven't.)

FabHK 5y ago

> but in some ways it's too good Indeed. I typed "rm -rf /" into the "terminal" in the web browser, and it cost me quite some nerve to actually hit Enter.

Th3dud3 5y ago
Ha. I see you too entered the Matrix.