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No, because without tests, doctors didn’t uniformly attribute deaths correctly to covid, and often the official causes of death even in cases of cancer are ofte
by altcognito 5y ago
No, because without tests, doctors didn’t uniformly attribute deaths correctly to covid, and often the official causes of death even in cases of cancer are often “pneumonia” or sepsis, or organ failure — the literal thing that killed them at the moment of death, not the cause of the symptom that overwhelmed the body.
- timr 5y agoYou are making an assumption that all (or even just the majority) of excess deaths are because of this. Moreover, we know that there are examples of the opposite: deaths where Covid was on the certificate as a contributing factor, but not the primary cause. These aren't hard to find. An 85 year-old with congestive heart failure and late-stage cancer and Covid reflects the modal situation here. It isn't some theoretical event -- it's incredibly common.
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- pixl97 5y agoRight, and those happen at a pretty regular rate every year. If we suddenly have 50k+ more congestive heart failure cases, or 50k less, we can tell that in the statistics.
- timr 5y agoWell, sure. It will be good to get the actual data, and then we'll know. Right now, what we have is aggregate death counts (which we know are high), and people speculating that they're elevated because of Covid (or in this case, making models based on speculation).