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I was considering switching to Alacritty earlier this week, but a quick look at some github issues changed my mind. The devs come off super toxic. Take a look

I was considering switching to Alacritty earlier this week, but a quick look at some github issues changed my mind. The devs come off super toxic. Take a look at this guy that got verbal abuse for pointing out the color labeled "green" looks more like banana than lime: https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/1561 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/1561 Strike 2/2 was multiple devs responding to OSX issues with "switch operating systems"

vlovich123 5y ago
That was my conclusion as well after my limited interactions with them. I no longer use it.
CapmCrackaWaka 5y ago
Oof, that interaction was uncomfortable. Definitely a very bad look for that dev.
- apocolyps6 5y ago
  The other dev chiming in at the end with "I've heard only good things about Alacritty's default colorscheme so far" was also frustrating. Saying "well nobody else complained" is an awful reason to dismiss an issue.
  - Sleepytime 5y ago
    Considering this is their reaction to someone pointing out that their green is actually yellow, I'm not surprised that they are in an echo chamber.
    - hitekker 5y ago
      Echo chamber is one term, another would be tribe. An insecure group member feels threatened by an outsider and lashes out. Another group member sees an outsider triggering a group member and he immediately jumps into help. Together, they attack the outsider and drive him off. I think if the maintainer was less insecure and more able to take critique, the exchange wouldn't have aroused the "fight or flight" instincts of the group.
- tdhz77 5y ago
  An open source project with a closed source mentality.
tmalsburg2 5y ago
The thing that got me annoyed was the bold claim that it‘s the fastest terminal emulator even though many people reported that other terminal emulators were faster. For instance, urxvt was 3 to 5 times faster last time I checked (in addition to also being rock solid).
lasagnaphil 5y ago
To be fair, I thought the dev’s response was adequate here. Just posting on the issue section that the “colors are wrong” while comparing with uxrvt, without any explanation or self-investigation as to why this could be a problem, has ample potential to be regarded as rude to the devs (I’m using this another terminal app and have better colors, why aren’t you fixing this?) And please note that Mac OS is NOTORIOUS for having bad/buggy/outdated support for OpenGL (which alacritty extensively uses), and this is a legitimate frustration that many developers in the low-level graphics domain have. It’s already really maddening for the devs, the contributors shouldn’t nag too much about it (I understand people outside the domain might genuinely not know this - but it’s always good to read some of the previous Github issues before filing your own, to learn the general “vive” among the core contributors)
- camgunz 5y ago
  IDK, the screenshot posted makes what is supposed to be pretty primary (OK secondary) color green look like yellow. Color in terminals is pretty important; if I configured something to use ANSI green and it came out like Alacritty rendered it, I'd think something was off. Why is the default theme not standard? And FWIW, that website they're all referencing absolutely will not say a color contains mostly "yellow" (it reports the highest RGB value), no matter what you do [1]. [1]: https://www.color-hex.com/color/feff00 https://www.color-hex.com/color/feff00
- apocolyps6 5y ago
  Yes, it can be frustrating when your users don't know as much about your product as you do and ask for help in a vague way. It's unintuitive that a color named green would correspond to the color on the left that I don't think most people would think to check. It's totally fine to have a policy of not supporting OSX, as long as you communicate it with professionalism or at least civility.
- hitekker 5y ago
  If MacOS support is terrible, then they could either not advertise it[1] or disclaim it results in poor UX. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty#installation https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty#installation Labeling a piece of software as "cross platform" without testing on all platforms comes across as dishonest.
hojjat12000 5y ago
I also read some of their interactions with people having issues on Gnome Wayland. I recently switched to Tilix. I realized multiplexing makes me a lot faster than gpu powered terminal. and if I'm supposed to use tmux, then alacritty is a lot slower with tmux and loses it's "speed" (it's another issue on their page that I had fun reading all the way through)
Sleepytime 5y ago
I was experimenting with it this week as well, and that exact issue was what had me uninstall it. I guess this post doesn't add much value, but I thought the (synchronicity?) Of our experiences was interesting. It's a curious hill to die on, so to speak.
- bananabreakfast 5y ago
  I imagine they would probably say the same thing to you. You're really not willing to use an excellent piece of software because one time you saw a dev dismiss someone who didn't like the default color scheme? How is that not even more petty?
  - CapmCrackaWaka 5y ago
    Hey, vote with your wallet. A lot of people here on HN go out of their way to avoid products from companies that they view as poisonous, this is no different really.
    - ramblerman 5y ago
      poisonous, toxic, abuse.... You sure aren't running out of creative synonyms to make drama over a pretty insignificant incident.
    - ttt0 5y ago
      You mean products with closed source, made by people who cannot be trusted? Yes, I think it's different. How many people here refuse to run Linux because they don't like the way Linus talks on the mailing lists?
sseneca 5y ago
Yeah, this was my take away as well. Also, iirc their claims of Alacritty being the "fastest" are dubious at best. I used Kitty for a while instead, which is very similar. More recently I've been trying out Foot: https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot
- xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
  Dubious indeed. I gave Alacritty a really good shot, as I was super excited to have a faster terminal. But my entire experience was plagued with slowdowns -- huge latencies, cat'ing huge files was very slow. I spent tons of time trying to tune things to make it good but it just never got there. Basically every other "simple" terminal I've found behaves better -- xterm, urxvt, konsole, even iTerm2. I have no idea how they can claim "fastest".
  - nemoden 5y ago
    I did quite a bit of testing of alacritty, kitty, iTerm2, and default macos terminal. Kitty shown best results even using test that alacritty is using (tree /) vim is faster in kitty (by perception), both when ran without multiplexor and inside tmux session
  - Cloudef 5y ago
    alacritty is GPU accelerated terminal. It may not be faster depending on your setup. xterm is also one of the fastest software terminals out there.
    - xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
      Yeah but their slogan isn't "fastest terminal depending on your setup."
- dsissitka 5y ago
  Yeah, their original benchmarks were, uh... > Benchmarks so far have just involved running find /usr on my Linux system with Alacritty, st, and urxvt, and on macOS against Terminal.app and iTerm2. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/289#issuecomment-272078437 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/289#issuecomme... They decided to continue marketing it as the fastest terminal emulator anyway. > > Correct accuracy of first sentence in README #798 > > > > As documented in #289 it's not currently the fastest-- only a small number of terminals running a single task for initially benchmarked. > > nah https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/pull/798 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/pull/798
bananabreakfast 5y ago
Yeah, I side with the devs on that one. Frankly, that is a total misrepresentation to call that verbal abuse. What it is, is frustrated devs dealing with a rudely worded and pointless issue. That issue is literally just trying to start a bikeshed about a color in a standard color scheme they chose as the default. It could not be more useless. On top of that, they try to start that bikeshed by simply saying "the colors are wrong" and pointing to a terrible screenshot. Open source devs have to deal with a ton of unproductive garbage issues that they are not paid to deal with which risks engendering total burnout. It is way too much to ask them to treat every single person with kid gloves especially when they are opening issues from a place of disrespect.
p5a0u9l 5y ago
clever. review project issues before investing time in using project.
cryptonector 5y ago
Wow, that's an ugly dev response.
mrslave 5y ago
Thanks for calling this out. This is not something I would have thought to check myself. It's unfortunate the most common use of the word toxic is in a very abstract sense, but the behavior you identify is just plain unnecessary rudeness and a much more suitable use of the word. Can we assume people are acting in good faith until we have reason to think otherwise? As highlighted by the green-is-yellow issue, it is OK to simply say, "Understood. The color scheme has been previously discussed, is popular and isn't currently considered for change. But you can configure it yourself by <link-to-documentation>..." The accusation of an entitled attitude appears a bit of a leap to me too. To be fair, while a tad rude in tone, the dev's second post is an improvement. Or perhaps, "We don't have a lot of resources for this level of detail. Sorry." (Open-source honesty?) Or even, "If you wrote a patch taking the values from rxvt it would be considered but possibly rejected after discussing policy with lead devs."
- est31 5y ago
  > But you can configure it yourself by <link-to-documentation>... The two first comments of the maintainer in the thread mentioned the configurability of alacritty, giving soft hints that maybe the user should just set it privately to comfort their private taste. I feel that discussions about taste choices can sometimes be the most tiring ones, because often people have different tastes and you can't give rational arguments why you like one taste more. That's why there is configurability in the first place, maintainers recognizing that people have a diversity of personal tastes. You can't ever do it right by everyone. Maybe the maintainer should have communicated that better more early on, but they did communicate something along those lines later on. They were still around to explain themselves.
  - KwisatzHaderack 5y ago
    In this case, it’s not even taste preference but color perception, which is even harder to objectify.
- beaunative 5y ago
  TBH, I detect grumpiness from his initial comment. He might not be a bad person, but if it's in an office, I'd probably apologize first if it was me who said that.
zeofig 5y ago
Boohoo. Maybe call the git police?
est31 5y ago
> Strike 2/2 was multiple devs responding to OSX issues with "switch operating systems" What are the devs supposed to do? Debug the proprietary driver? They might not even own a Mac device because they give the software away for free and don't want to spend thousands on their spare time hobby. OpenGL drivers, regardless of manufactuer btw, have massive issues with bugs. They were so serious in fact, that the original glium maintainer gave up maintaining it. Having taken over emergency maintainership of glium, the way I deal with such issues now is to close them with a response that PRs are welcome (unless my specific config can reproduce them). Also, extremely often you see open source as well as proprietary software on hn that's mac only. Isn't that, too, maintainers saying "switch operating systems"?
- rattray 5y ago
  > What are the devs supposed to do? Debug the proprietary driver? As you said, "The maintainers don't own macs; PR's welcome. You might also file an issue with Apple." would be a perfectly reasonable response.
- bfrog 5y ago
  Why do people insist on supporting the closed source horror show of os x aid beyond me. Apple docs are some of the worst on the planet. It's like they intend on making the barrier to entry high so once you are in the club you somehow have prestige. No, you have Stockholm syndrome.
nextlevelwizard 5y ago
2-3 years ago someone had a bad day so don’t use the project… I guess this is the today’s mentality. It is no longer enough that the software is good if they don’t publicly lynch every wrong thinker or mistake-maker who passes by they are guilty by association
freshair 5y ago
From that github discussion: > "The default green is 0xb9ca4a [which is actually yellow](https://www.color-hex.com/color/b9ca4a https://www.color-hex.com/color/b9ca4a)." While I agree that 0xb9ca4a is not a good choice for a default green, I disagree with the claim that it's yellow. In fact, the website that user cited for their "which is actually yellow" claim doesn't say what that user claims. That website says: > Color #b9ca4a contains mainly GREEN color. To my eyes, it's puke green. And the shades and tints of this color shown on that page make it clear that this is green.
theobeers 5y ago
Re: macOS, I don't think the people currently maintaining Alacritty have the ability or the inclination to fix those issues, some of which have been widely reported. Users keep opening duplicate issues without realizing it. I was guilty of this myself; I'm one of many people to notice problems with font fallback on macOS. While I thought the dev who responded to me could have been a bit nicer, it's probably frustrating for them to go through the same routine over and over. I also didn't really understand, at first, what was causing the problem that I was seeing. So I was not only bothering them, but my sense is that I came off as an idiot. (After poking around a bit, I found that the problem is in Alacritty's crossfont library. I forked it, added a temporary fix, and built my own version of the app from source. It was a happy ending to a not-entirely-pleasant experience.)
bluepoint 5y ago
Can it be that there is background between these people that we don’t know and it is not reflective of the general attitude? I am not justifying rudeness, but I understand the human relations, online or offline can be complex. Also if alacrity is really technically good do we tolerate bad behavior by its developers? A bit like House wanted to be the best partially because he did not want to care too much about his behavior.
ramblerman 5y ago
A quick look found you a 3 year old closed issue? It's equally "toxic" imo to torpedo a project, and all the efforts because of some bad communication. Sure, the dev did fly off the handle initially but if you read the whole tread, he comes around, and actually keeps responding - in other words he cares. We already seldomnly argue the point anymore. Now it seems we don't even evaluate software at core value anymore, rather we must know the personality of its creators.
- apocolyps6 5y ago
  Yes. I opened alacritty for the first time, wondered why my greens were showing up as yellow and googled it. This was the first result. I doubt my comment is going to torpedo anything. But I didn't put down alacritty for "personality" reasons. There are a lot of excellent terminal emulators out there. This github issue wasn't an isolated incident, and if the devs are regularly this hostile there's bound to be lots of issues like this that won't be fixed. Especially since my OS is only nominally supported.
bfrog 5y ago
The issue says the color choice was poor, effectively critiquing the ability of the person who chose that color. I'd be insulted too. Wording choices matter.
perjes 5y ago
Another example of the bad attitude of the core devs (there are many, just look through some of the closed issues): https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/5029 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/5029 I wish Kitty had more hype going for it, it deserves it more IMO.

vlovich123 5y ago

That was my conclusion as well after my limited interactions with them. I no longer use it.

CapmCrackaWaka 5y ago

Oof, that interaction was uncomfortable. Definitely a very bad look for that dev.

apocolyps6 5y ago
The other dev chiming in at the end with "I've heard only good things about Alacritty's default colorscheme so far" was also frustrating. Saying "well nobody else complained" is an awful reason to dismiss an issue.
- Sleepytime 5y ago
  Considering this is their reaction to someone pointing out that their green is actually yellow, I'm not surprised that they are in an echo chamber.
  - hitekker 5y ago
    Echo chamber is one term, another would be tribe. An insecure group member feels threatened by an outsider and lashes out. Another group member sees an outsider triggering a group member and he immediately jumps into help. Together, they attack the outsider and drive him off. I think if the maintainer was less insecure and more able to take critique, the exchange wouldn't have aroused the "fight or flight" instincts of the group.
tdhz77 5y ago
An open source project with a closed source mentality.

tmalsburg2 5y ago

The thing that got me annoyed was the bold claim that it‘s the fastest terminal emulator even though many people reported that other terminal emulators were faster. For instance, urxvt was 3 to 5 times faster last time I checked (in addition to also being rock solid).

lasagnaphil 5y ago

To be fair, I thought the dev’s response was adequate here. Just posting on the issue section that the “colors are wrong” while comparing with uxrvt, without any explanation or self-investigation as to why this could be a problem, has ample potential to be regarded as rude to the devs (I’m using this another terminal app and have better colors, why aren’t you fixing this?) And please note that Mac OS is NOTORIOUS for having bad/buggy/outdated support for OpenGL (which alacritty extensively uses), and this is a legitimate frustration that many developers in the low-level graphics domain have. It’s already really maddening for the devs, the contributors shouldn’t nag too much about it (I understand people outside the domain might genuinely not know this - but it’s always good to read some of the previous Github issues before filing your own, to learn the general “vive” among the core contributors)

camgunz 5y ago
IDK, the screenshot posted makes what is supposed to be pretty primary (OK secondary) color green look like yellow. Color in terminals is pretty important; if I configured something to use ANSI green and it came out like Alacritty rendered it, I'd think something was off. Why is the default theme not standard? And FWIW, that website they're all referencing absolutely will not say a color contains mostly "yellow" (it reports the highest RGB value), no matter what you do [1]. [1]: https://www.color-hex.com/color/feff00 https://www.color-hex.com/color/feff00
apocolyps6 5y ago
Yes, it can be frustrating when your users don't know as much about your product as you do and ask for help in a vague way. It's unintuitive that a color named green would correspond to the color on the left that I don't think most people would think to check. It's totally fine to have a policy of not supporting OSX, as long as you communicate it with professionalism or at least civility.
hitekker 5y ago
If MacOS support is terrible, then they could either not advertise it[1] or disclaim it results in poor UX. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty#installation https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty#installation Labeling a piece of software as "cross platform" without testing on all platforms comes across as dishonest.

hojjat12000 5y ago

I also read some of their interactions with people having issues on Gnome Wayland. I recently switched to Tilix. I realized multiplexing makes me a lot faster than gpu powered terminal. and if I'm supposed to use tmux, then alacritty is a lot slower with tmux and loses it's "speed" (it's another issue on their page that I had fun reading all the way through)

Sleepytime 5y ago

I was experimenting with it this week as well, and that exact issue was what had me uninstall it. I guess this post doesn't add much value, but I thought the (synchronicity?) Of our experiences was interesting. It's a curious hill to die on, so to speak.

bananabreakfast 5y ago
I imagine they would probably say the same thing to you. You're really not willing to use an excellent piece of software because one time you saw a dev dismiss someone who didn't like the default color scheme? How is that not even more petty?
- CapmCrackaWaka 5y ago
  Hey, vote with your wallet. A lot of people here on HN go out of their way to avoid products from companies that they view as poisonous, this is no different really.
  - ramblerman 5y ago
    poisonous, toxic, abuse.... You sure aren't running out of creative synonyms to make drama over a pretty insignificant incident.
  - ttt0 5y ago
    You mean products with closed source, made by people who cannot be trusted? Yes, I think it's different. How many people here refuse to run Linux because they don't like the way Linus talks on the mailing lists?

sseneca 5y ago

Yeah, this was my take away as well. Also, iirc their claims of Alacritty being the "fastest" are dubious at best. I used Kitty for a while instead, which is very similar. More recently I've been trying out Foot: https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot https://codeberg.org/dnkl/foot

xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
Dubious indeed. I gave Alacritty a really good shot, as I was super excited to have a faster terminal. But my entire experience was plagued with slowdowns -- huge latencies, cat'ing huge files was very slow. I spent tons of time trying to tune things to make it good but it just never got there. Basically every other "simple" terminal I've found behaves better -- xterm, urxvt, konsole, even iTerm2. I have no idea how they can claim "fastest".
- nemoden 5y ago
  I did quite a bit of testing of alacritty, kitty, iTerm2, and default macos terminal. Kitty shown best results even using test that alacritty is using (tree /) vim is faster in kitty (by perception), both when ran without multiplexor and inside tmux session
- Cloudef 5y ago
  alacritty is GPU accelerated terminal. It may not be faster depending on your setup. xterm is also one of the fastest software terminals out there.
  - xyzzy_plugh 5y ago
    Yeah but their slogan isn't "fastest terminal depending on your setup."
dsissitka 5y ago
Yeah, their original benchmarks were, uh... > Benchmarks so far have just involved running find /usr on my Linux system with Alacritty, st, and urxvt, and on macOS against Terminal.app and iTerm2. https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/289#issuecomment-272078437 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/289#issuecomme... They decided to continue marketing it as the fastest terminal emulator anyway. > > Correct accuracy of first sentence in README #798 > > > > As documented in #289 it's not currently the fastest-- only a small number of terminals running a single task for initially benchmarked. > > nah https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/pull/798 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/pull/798

bananabreakfast 5y ago

Yeah, I side with the devs on that one. Frankly, that is a total misrepresentation to call that verbal abuse. What it is, is frustrated devs dealing with a rudely worded and pointless issue. That issue is literally just trying to start a bikeshed about a color in a standard color scheme they chose as the default. It could not be more useless. On top of that, they try to start that bikeshed by simply saying "the colors are wrong" and pointing to a terrible screenshot. Open source devs have to deal with a ton of unproductive garbage issues that they are not paid to deal with which risks engendering total burnout. It is way too much to ask them to treat every single person with kid gloves especially when they are opening issues from a place of disrespect.

p5a0u9l 5y ago

clever. review project issues before investing time in using project.

cryptonector 5y ago

Wow, that's an ugly dev response.

mrslave 5y ago

Thanks for calling this out. This is not something I would have thought to check myself. It's unfortunate the most common use of the word toxic is in a very abstract sense, but the behavior you identify is just plain unnecessary rudeness and a much more suitable use of the word. Can we assume people are acting in good faith until we have reason to think otherwise? As highlighted by the green-is-yellow issue, it is OK to simply say, "Understood. The color scheme has been previously discussed, is popular and isn't currently considered for change. But you can configure it yourself by <link-to-documentation>..." The accusation of an entitled attitude appears a bit of a leap to me too. To be fair, while a tad rude in tone, the dev's second post is an improvement. Or perhaps, "We don't have a lot of resources for this level of detail. Sorry." (Open-source honesty?) Or even, "If you wrote a patch taking the values from rxvt it would be considered but possibly rejected after discussing policy with lead devs."

est31 5y ago
> But you can configure it yourself by <link-to-documentation>... The two first comments of the maintainer in the thread mentioned the configurability of alacritty, giving soft hints that maybe the user should just set it privately to comfort their private taste. I feel that discussions about taste choices can sometimes be the most tiring ones, because often people have different tastes and you can't give rational arguments why you like one taste more. That's why there is configurability in the first place, maintainers recognizing that people have a diversity of personal tastes. You can't ever do it right by everyone. Maybe the maintainer should have communicated that better more early on, but they did communicate something along those lines later on. They were still around to explain themselves.
- KwisatzHaderack 5y ago
  In this case, it’s not even taste preference but color perception, which is even harder to objectify.
beaunative 5y ago
TBH, I detect grumpiness from his initial comment. He might not be a bad person, but if it's in an office, I'd probably apologize first if it was me who said that.

zeofig 5y ago

Boohoo. Maybe call the git police?

est31 5y ago

> Strike 2/2 was multiple devs responding to OSX issues with "switch operating systems" What are the devs supposed to do? Debug the proprietary driver? They might not even own a Mac device because they give the software away for free and don't want to spend thousands on their spare time hobby. OpenGL drivers, regardless of manufactuer btw, have massive issues with bugs. They were so serious in fact, that the original glium maintainer gave up maintaining it. Having taken over emergency maintainership of glium, the way I deal with such issues now is to close them with a response that PRs are welcome (unless my specific config can reproduce them). Also, extremely often you see open source as well as proprietary software on hn that's mac only. Isn't that, too, maintainers saying "switch operating systems"?

rattray 5y ago
> What are the devs supposed to do? Debug the proprietary driver? As you said, "The maintainers don't own macs; PR's welcome. You might also file an issue with Apple." would be a perfectly reasonable response.
bfrog 5y ago
Why do people insist on supporting the closed source horror show of os x aid beyond me. Apple docs are some of the worst on the planet. It's like they intend on making the barrier to entry high so once you are in the club you somehow have prestige. No, you have Stockholm syndrome.

nextlevelwizard 5y ago

2-3 years ago someone had a bad day so don’t use the project… I guess this is the today’s mentality. It is no longer enough that the software is good if they don’t publicly lynch every wrong thinker or mistake-maker who passes by they are guilty by association

freshair 5y ago

From that github discussion: > "The default green is 0xb9ca4a [which is actually yellow](https://www.color-hex.com/color/b9ca4a https://www.color-hex.com/color/b9ca4a)." While I agree that 0xb9ca4a is not a good choice for a default green, I disagree with the claim that it's yellow. In fact, the website that user cited for their "which is actually yellow" claim doesn't say what that user claims. That website says: > Color #b9ca4a contains mainly GREEN color. To my eyes, it's puke green. And the shades and tints of this color shown on that page make it clear that this is green.

theobeers 5y ago

Re: macOS, I don't think the people currently maintaining Alacritty have the ability or the inclination to fix those issues, some of which have been widely reported. Users keep opening duplicate issues without realizing it. I was guilty of this myself; I'm one of many people to notice problems with font fallback on macOS. While I thought the dev who responded to me could have been a bit nicer, it's probably frustrating for them to go through the same routine over and over. I also didn't really understand, at first, what was causing the problem that I was seeing. So I was not only bothering them, but my sense is that I came off as an idiot. (After poking around a bit, I found that the problem is in Alacritty's crossfont library. I forked it, added a temporary fix, and built my own version of the app from source. It was a happy ending to a not-entirely-pleasant experience.)

bluepoint 5y ago

Can it be that there is background between these people that we don’t know and it is not reflective of the general attitude? I am not justifying rudeness, but I understand the human relations, online or offline can be complex. Also if alacrity is really technically good do we tolerate bad behavior by its developers? A bit like House wanted to be the best partially because he did not want to care too much about his behavior.

ramblerman 5y ago

A quick look found you a 3 year old closed issue? It's equally "toxic" imo to torpedo a project, and all the efforts because of some bad communication. Sure, the dev did fly off the handle initially but if you read the whole tread, he comes around, and actually keeps responding - in other words he cares. We already seldomnly argue the point anymore. Now it seems we don't even evaluate software at core value anymore, rather we must know the personality of its creators.

apocolyps6 5y ago
Yes. I opened alacritty for the first time, wondered why my greens were showing up as yellow and googled it. This was the first result. I doubt my comment is going to torpedo anything. But I didn't put down alacritty for "personality" reasons. There are a lot of excellent terminal emulators out there. This github issue wasn't an isolated incident, and if the devs are regularly this hostile there's bound to be lots of issues like this that won't be fixed. Especially since my OS is only nominally supported.

bfrog 5y ago

The issue says the color choice was poor, effectively critiquing the ability of the person who chose that color. I'd be insulted too. Wording choices matter.

perjes 5y ago

Another example of the bad attitude of the core devs (there are many, just look through some of the closed issues): https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/5029 https://github.com/alacritty/alacritty/issues/5029 I wish Kitty had more hype going for it, it deserves it more IMO.