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Has there been studies comparing the personality and/or brain structure of transgender individuals before and after x years of hormone therapy? It would also ma

Has there been studies comparing the personality and/or brain structure of transgender individuals before and after x years of hormone therapy? It would also make sense to me that sex hormones affect personality to a large extent. This may be an unconventional take, but I think society would benefit greatly if people stopped seeing sex/gender as something you are, and rather saw it as something you have. I.e., you happen to have an X or Y chromosome which lead to a certain anatomy and hormonal profile. Seeing it as some fundamental component leads to "othering" of the opposite sex and its predictable consequences. I'm personally hoping that radical advancements in sex reassignment technology, along with their acceptance, will eliminate most of the ideological battles concerning sex and gender.

finnh 5y ago
Anecdata from female->male trans guys talk about feeling powerful, horny, and rage-prone as a result of testosterone injections.
- notsofastttt 5y ago
  I recall a show many years ago where there took about half a dozen people to a bar and told them they would be observed for the effects of alcohol. As the beers flowed, their behavior changed as expected under the influence of alcohol. Then it was revealed that the beer was non-alcoholic. I guess your anecdata makes me ask the question of whether the trans guys you know felt that way b/c of the change of hormone ratios or because they were impacted by the same social expectations of how guys are supposed to feel and act.
  - magicalhippo 5y ago
    I witnessed that firsthand. Most of us had just gotten over 18, but not him. One of us ended up buying the beers for him, and he got just as drunk as us. After we'd helped the poor guy into a taxi the news broke. What he didn't know was that the bar had a policy of one beer per id card, so the guy how'd ended up buying for him had gotten alcohol-free beer for our underage mate in addition to the real beer for himself, not telling our classmate of course. For the rest of that year he was known as Claus[1]... [1]: https://www.clausthaler.com/ https://www.clausthaler.com/
- weasel_words 5y ago
  On the same token, me having low testosterone (age-induced) I became extremely rage-prone, temperamental and aggressive until I started receiving testosterone injections. Immediately calmed me and allowed my "true" personality to emerge. So I don't think you can come to any conclusion about how it will affect one person based on how it affects another.
  - photojosh 5y ago
    This reminded me of stimulants and how they effect ADHD and non-ADHD people differently.
  - AuryGlenz 5y ago
    I suffered from undiagnosed low testosterone due to a concussion for many years. I was definitely more irritable/emotional. I wouldn’t say I had more rage/aggression, but that’s just not very like me. On testosterone I’m definitely more motivated. Hell, one time when my estrogen went too high I had an intense craving for chocolate.
- raarts 5y ago
  Seen those too, especially the horny part. Also not being able to cry any longer, and female friends complaining about not really listening to them any more.
- spideymans 5y ago
  https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/i-forgot-how-to-cry-as-a-man-hrt-gave-me-a-range-of-emotions-i-never-thought-possible https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/i-forgo...
TulliusCicero 5y ago
This is only after 3/6 months, but they already showed some differences: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30999214/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30999214/
- rozab 5y ago
  I think it would be hard to make sense of these results without comparing to trans women. A decrease in depression and an increase in social confidence seems likely to occur in both groups.
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throwaway162024 5y ago
This google sheet has a nice compilation of links to various medical studies. It might be biased but it's at least something. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit#gid=0 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf...

finnh 5y ago

Anecdata from female->male trans guys talk about feeling powerful, horny, and rage-prone as a result of testosterone injections.

notsofastttt 5y ago
I recall a show many years ago where there took about half a dozen people to a bar and told them they would be observed for the effects of alcohol. As the beers flowed, their behavior changed as expected under the influence of alcohol. Then it was revealed that the beer was non-alcoholic. I guess your anecdata makes me ask the question of whether the trans guys you know felt that way b/c of the change of hormone ratios or because they were impacted by the same social expectations of how guys are supposed to feel and act.
- magicalhippo 5y ago
  I witnessed that firsthand. Most of us had just gotten over 18, but not him. One of us ended up buying the beers for him, and he got just as drunk as us. After we'd helped the poor guy into a taxi the news broke. What he didn't know was that the bar had a policy of one beer per id card, so the guy how'd ended up buying for him had gotten alcohol-free beer for our underage mate in addition to the real beer for himself, not telling our classmate of course. For the rest of that year he was known as Claus[1]... [1]: https://www.clausthaler.com/ https://www.clausthaler.com/
weasel_words 5y ago
On the same token, me having low testosterone (age-induced) I became extremely rage-prone, temperamental and aggressive until I started receiving testosterone injections. Immediately calmed me and allowed my "true" personality to emerge. So I don't think you can come to any conclusion about how it will affect one person based on how it affects another.
- photojosh 5y ago
  This reminded me of stimulants and how they effect ADHD and non-ADHD people differently.
- AuryGlenz 5y ago
  I suffered from undiagnosed low testosterone due to a concussion for many years. I was definitely more irritable/emotional. I wouldn’t say I had more rage/aggression, but that’s just not very like me. On testosterone I’m definitely more motivated. Hell, one time when my estrogen went too high I had an intense craving for chocolate.
raarts 5y ago
Seen those too, especially the horny part. Also not being able to cry any longer, and female friends complaining about not really listening to them any more.
spideymans 5y ago
https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/i-forgot-how-to-cry-as-a-man-hrt-gave-me-a-range-of-emotions-i-never-thought-possible https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2020/jul/20/i-forgo...

TulliusCicero 5y ago

This is only after 3/6 months, but they already showed some differences: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30999214/ https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30999214/

rozab 5y ago
I think it would be hard to make sense of these results without comparing to trans women. A decrease in depression and an increase in social confidence seems likely to occur in both groups.

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throwaway162024 5y ago

This google sheet has a nice compilation of links to various medical studies. It might be biased but it's at least something. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf0vIoAh7e8nj_lCW27KbYBh0/edit#gid=0 https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1d9KKqP9IHa5ZxU84a_Jf...