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Some other WebRTC file transfer options: * https://wormhole.app/ https://wormhole.app/ (my recent fave, by creator of WebTorrent, holds for 24h, https://instan

Some other WebRTC file transfer options: * https://wormhole.app/ https://wormhole.app/ (my recent fave, by creator of WebTorrent, holds for 24h, https://instant.io https://instant.io by same) * https://file.pizza/ https://file.pizza/ (p2p, nothing stored) * https://webwormhole.io/ https://webwormhole.io/ (same, but has a cli) * https://www.sharedrop.io/ https://www.sharedrop.io/ (same, does qr codes) * https://justbeamit.com/ https://justbeamit.com/ (same, expires in 10 minutes) * https://send.vis.ee https://send.vis.ee (hosted version of this code) * https://send.tresorit.com/ https://send.tresorit.com/ (not p2p, 5 GB limit, encrypted) I track these tools here: https://href.cool/Web/Participate/ https://href.cool/Web/Participate/

dschep 5y ago
There's also https://snapdrop.net https://snapdrop.net which seems extremely similar to sharedrop.io but has an additional useful feature of letting you send messages which I sometimes use to send links to devices that aren't logged into any service.
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Ah neat! I've added all of the links in the comments here to my list - great to see what's out there and to combine our collections.
elliebike 5y ago
I’m a fan of Kipp! Not p2p, but has optional encryption https://kipp.6f.io/ https://kipp.6f.io/
fljsdflsdfjdslf 5y ago
Missing https://dropbox.com/transfer https://dropbox.com/transfer
- ehsankia 5y ago
  Is that using WebRTC, or are they hosting the files on their backend?
Ansil849 5y ago
> I track these tools How frequently do you validate that they are still functional? I tried File Pizza several months ago, and neither I nor the recipient could get it to work.
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Links are checked at least once daily - I do have a few that are recently broken that I need to address - but File.pizza is okay again. I have switched the main link to Wormhole, because it's now my preferred option - and because File.pizza has been up and down for me in the past as well.
  - Ansil849 5y ago
    The website is up - the actual transfer service no longer seems to function in modern browsers. Have you (or anyone) had a successful transfer via File Pizza recently?
    - tyingq 5y ago
      Just tried with a tiny file, it tries to work, as I can see the filename/size on the receiver end. But, it never downloads. It does say "Peers: 0, Up: 0, Down: 0".
      - kickscondor 5y ago
        Ok - I see. I suppose I will need to find a way to verify some of these links a bit deeper. Thank you for doing the footwork on this!
- lancepioch 5y ago
  I swear I've tried it several times over several years. I've never gotten it to work.
dennis-tra 5y ago
I‘ve also built a file transfer tool (CLI) with emphasis on decentralization. It’s a fully decentralized p2p file transfer tool based on libp2p: https://github.com/dennis-tra/pcp https://github.com/dennis-tra/pcp I‘m currently trying to make it interoperable with https://share.ipfs.io/#/ https://share.ipfs.io/#/ which resembles the functionality of the posted tool.
- kickscondor 5y ago
  Seems very similar to 'hyp beam': https://github.com/hypercore-protocol/cli https://github.com/hypercore-protocol/cli
iagovar 5y ago
Hmmm, it seems like https://webwormhole.io/ https://webwormhole.io/ has changed from last time I used it. https://wormhole.app/ https://wormhole.app/ seems more similar to what I remembered as frontend. I remember trying many of those services and I decided to use this one because I could send large files without any problem (was trying to move sqlite dbs that were several Gbs, as it seemed to stream the file instead of trying to store it on ram first, but now I see wormhole.app allows up to 10GB, and I don't remember to have any limit. WebRTC services seem to have problems to get up to speed, but for streaming files between devices it seems the best solution in terms of friction.
- lxgr 5y ago
  The speed problems interestingly seem to be caused by a bug in an implementation of SCTP used by most (all?) WebRTC browser implementations: https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole/issues/55 https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole/issues/55 The symptom seems to be that the SCTP data rate drops with increasing latency (which used to be a problem with very old TCP implementations too, but all modern ones handle high-latency networks much better).
  - Sean-Der 5y ago
    I think SCTP has everything we need, just more knobs need to be exposed [0] I have gotten feedback about the performance about Pion's SCTP implementation as well. It is a hard problem. The amount of people who care about SCTP performance + WebRTC and are able to work on it is very small. If anyone is interested in more about this [1] is a fun issue to read. libwebrtc is also planning to stop using libwebrtc soon. That would mean all browsers (Chrome, Safari, FireFox) will be on something new. Could be good no idea yet. The ongoing work is here [2] [0] https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-extensions/issues/71 https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-extensions/issues/71 [1] https://github.com/pion/sctp/issues/62 https://github.com/pion/sctp/issues/62 [2] https://webrtc.googlesource.com/src/+log/refs/heads/master/net/dcsctp https://webrtc.googlesource.com/src/+log/refs/heads/master/n...
    - Sean-Der 5y ago
seriousquestion 5y ago
Thanks, useful site!
ctpide 5y ago
We build a web app for e2ee file transfer: https://arcano.app https://arcano.app
fckthisguy 5y ago
As I recall, there's a difference between file.pizza and webwormhole. file.pizza allows the sender to specify files and then generates a share url, whereas webwormhole creates a share link first. The latter can be useful if you're not sure exactly what you'll send before you share the link.
carbonatedmilk 5y ago
love Wormhole, but that animated background chews up an incredible amount of battery power on my M1 Macbook Air (even when the tab is in the background). Please wormhole crew, turn it off.
- FounderBurr 5y ago
  Wouldn’t it be easier for you to manage what you expend your battery on?
  - Spare_account 5y ago
    Great idea, do you have any suggestions that will help?
- BiteCode_dev 5y ago
  And if you have a sucky connection, it's slow has hell to load.
  - feross 5y ago
    Sorry to hear the site was slow for you. We get pretty good scores on Lighthouse and from real-world data according to https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwormhole.app https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=... What OS, browser, and connection type/speed did you use?
    - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
      Ubuntu, Firefox, sucky country adsl with unkown speed. I don't mind for the upload to be slow, I just let it run, but getting to the page should not be. I mean, this galaxy.jpg file is a third of you webpack JS bundle size! It has no added value for me. I get the cool factor, I know it's pretty, but still.
    - slazaro 5y ago
      You could add a "fast" or "lite" or similar subdomain that avoids anything like the complaints that have been shared here. Not perfect (the default should be the best), but at least you could avoid this problems as a user.
puchatek 5y ago
That website or yours should be its own hn article.
rorykoehler 5y ago
https://snapdrop.net/ https://snapdrop.net/ is another
Dumbdo 5y ago
There's also https://github.com/schollz/croc https://github.com/schollz/croc which is a very simple P2P CLI transfer tool.
ca98am79 5y ago
I made these: https://file.io https://file.io https://temporary.pw https://temporary.pw
NeoLaval 5y ago
http://Gofile.io http://Gofile.io File sharing and storage platform, unlimited and free

dschep 5y ago

There's also https://snapdrop.net https://snapdrop.net which seems extremely similar to sharedrop.io but has an additional useful feature of letting you send messages which I sometimes use to send links to devices that aren't logged into any service.

kickscondor 5y ago
Ah neat! I've added all of the links in the comments here to my list - great to see what's out there and to combine our collections.

elliebike 5y ago

I’m a fan of Kipp! Not p2p, but has optional encryption https://kipp.6f.io/ https://kipp.6f.io/

fljsdflsdfjdslf 5y ago

Missing https://dropbox.com/transfer https://dropbox.com/transfer

ehsankia 5y ago
Is that using WebRTC, or are they hosting the files on their backend?

Ansil849 5y ago

> I track these tools How frequently do you validate that they are still functional? I tried File Pizza several months ago, and neither I nor the recipient could get it to work.

kickscondor 5y ago
Links are checked at least once daily - I do have a few that are recently broken that I need to address - but File.pizza is okay again. I have switched the main link to Wormhole, because it's now my preferred option - and because File.pizza has been up and down for me in the past as well.
- Ansil849 5y ago
  The website is up - the actual transfer service no longer seems to function in modern browsers. Have you (or anyone) had a successful transfer via File Pizza recently?
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Just tried with a tiny file, it tries to work, as I can see the filename/size on the receiver end. But, it never downloads. It does say "Peers: 0, Up: 0, Down: 0".
    - kickscondor 5y ago
      Ok - I see. I suppose I will need to find a way to verify some of these links a bit deeper. Thank you for doing the footwork on this!
lancepioch 5y ago
I swear I've tried it several times over several years. I've never gotten it to work.

dennis-tra 5y ago

I‘ve also built a file transfer tool (CLI) with emphasis on decentralization. It’s a fully decentralized p2p file transfer tool based on libp2p: https://github.com/dennis-tra/pcp https://github.com/dennis-tra/pcp I‘m currently trying to make it interoperable with https://share.ipfs.io/#/ https://share.ipfs.io/#/ which resembles the functionality of the posted tool.

kickscondor 5y ago
Seems very similar to 'hyp beam': https://github.com/hypercore-protocol/cli https://github.com/hypercore-protocol/cli

iagovar 5y ago

Hmmm, it seems like https://webwormhole.io/ https://webwormhole.io/ has changed from last time I used it. https://wormhole.app/ https://wormhole.app/ seems more similar to what I remembered as frontend. I remember trying many of those services and I decided to use this one because I could send large files without any problem (was trying to move sqlite dbs that were several Gbs, as it seemed to stream the file instead of trying to store it on ram first, but now I see wormhole.app allows up to 10GB, and I don't remember to have any limit. WebRTC services seem to have problems to get up to speed, but for streaming files between devices it seems the best solution in terms of friction.

lxgr 5y ago
The speed problems interestingly seem to be caused by a bug in an implementation of SCTP used by most (all?) WebRTC browser implementations: https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole/issues/55 https://github.com/saljam/webwormhole/issues/55 The symptom seems to be that the SCTP data rate drops with increasing latency (which used to be a problem with very old TCP implementations too, but all modern ones handle high-latency networks much better).
- Sean-Der 5y ago
  I think SCTP has everything we need, just more knobs need to be exposed [0] I have gotten feedback about the performance about Pion's SCTP implementation as well. It is a hard problem. The amount of people who care about SCTP performance + WebRTC and are able to work on it is very small. If anyone is interested in more about this [1] is a fun issue to read. libwebrtc is also planning to stop using libwebrtc soon. That would mean all browsers (Chrome, Safari, FireFox) will be on something new. Could be good no idea yet. The ongoing work is here [2] [0] https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-extensions/issues/71 https://github.com/w3c/webrtc-extensions/issues/71 [1] https://github.com/pion/sctp/issues/62 https://github.com/pion/sctp/issues/62 [2] https://webrtc.googlesource.com/src/+log/refs/heads/master/net/dcsctp https://webrtc.googlesource.com/src/+log/refs/heads/master/n...
  - Sean-Der 5y ago

seriousquestion 5y ago

Thanks, useful site!

ctpide 5y ago

We build a web app for e2ee file transfer: https://arcano.app https://arcano.app

fckthisguy 5y ago

As I recall, there's a difference between file.pizza and webwormhole. file.pizza allows the sender to specify files and then generates a share url, whereas webwormhole creates a share link first. The latter can be useful if you're not sure exactly what you'll send before you share the link.

carbonatedmilk 5y ago

love Wormhole, but that animated background chews up an incredible amount of battery power on my M1 Macbook Air (even when the tab is in the background). Please wormhole crew, turn it off.

FounderBurr 5y ago
Wouldn’t it be easier for you to manage what you expend your battery on?
- Spare_account 5y ago
  Great idea, do you have any suggestions that will help?
BiteCode_dev 5y ago
And if you have a sucky connection, it's slow has hell to load.
- feross 5y ago
  Sorry to hear the site was slow for you. We get pretty good scores on Lighthouse and from real-world data according to https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwormhole.app https://developers.google.com/speed/pagespeed/insights/?url=... What OS, browser, and connection type/speed did you use?
  - BiteCode_dev 5y ago
    Ubuntu, Firefox, sucky country adsl with unkown speed. I don't mind for the upload to be slow, I just let it run, but getting to the page should not be. I mean, this galaxy.jpg file is a third of you webpack JS bundle size! It has no added value for me. I get the cool factor, I know it's pretty, but still.
  - slazaro 5y ago
    You could add a "fast" or "lite" or similar subdomain that avoids anything like the complaints that have been shared here. Not perfect (the default should be the best), but at least you could avoid this problems as a user.

puchatek 5y ago

That website or yours should be its own hn article.

rorykoehler 5y ago

https://snapdrop.net/ https://snapdrop.net/ is another

Dumbdo 5y ago

There's also https://github.com/schollz/croc https://github.com/schollz/croc which is a very simple P2P CLI transfer tool.

ca98am79 5y ago

I made these: https://file.io https://file.io https://temporary.pw https://temporary.pw

NeoLaval 5y ago

http://Gofile.io http://Gofile.io File sharing and storage platform, unlimited and free