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This looks a good first step. But what is the iOS story of jetpack-compose? It's non-existent. Right now, there's only one single-codebase solution to render t

This looks a good first step. But what is the iOS story of jetpack-compose? It's non-existent. Right now, there's only one single-codebase solution to render to android, ios, mac, linux, windows and the web - and that is Flutter. But Flutter choosing Dart is more of an "easier to control the roadmap" strategy than the bs they actually put up on their FAQ I'd really like a Flutter like framework (that renders to it's own widgets) but with kotlin as the framework language and it isn't impossible to make. I don't see Google making it, as it conflicts with Flutter. Would like to see a developer oriented company like Jetpack and the open source community, make a push for a truly Flutter alternative.

stewartmcgown 5y ago
React Native runs on all those platforms too.
nsonha 5y ago
> ...only one React Native, NativeScript, Xamarin
thecupisblue 5y ago
Working on it right now, we're in stealth but going public in a few months, working on language support for modern editors, previews and our own editor right now! It's a unified solution that gives developers more freedom of choice, with some versions of it already battle tested in large production apps. If you're up for it, I would love to be able to email you when we release the public version or maybe even earlier.
deergomoo 5y ago
> that renders to it's own widgets I've always felt this to be a net negative, and it puts me off Flutter more than anything else. I know it has no bearing on the app developer or the end user, but there's something about pouring thousands of person-hours into making a facsimile of something that already exists (especially something that has already had thousands of person-hours put into usability and accessibility) that feels so wasteful. It's silly I know, but it just doesn't sit right with me.
chgibb 5y ago
Not Kotlin, but working to bring Flutter to other languages https://hydro-sdk.io/ https://hydro-sdk.io/
sebe 5y ago
"But Flutter choosing Dart" Maybe kotlin was a year too late, not making it to 1.0 till February 15, 2016. The sky project that became flutter was demoed at the April 2015 dart conf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA As regards Javascript, that's what they started with, they looked at other languages and gave dart a go, it gave them faster startup and the dart team offered them stateful hot reload. Anyway working in the chrome space, they prob didn't know that Kotlin existed pre 2015 and prob would have gone with Python if could.
EvilEy3 5y ago
No, right now the only way to target all platforms is JavaScript. Flutter's desktop and web support is a sad joke, and even on mobile it doesn't feel native even on Android.

stewartmcgown 5y ago

React Native runs on all those platforms too.

nsonha 5y ago

> ...only one React Native, NativeScript, Xamarin

thecupisblue 5y ago

Working on it right now, we're in stealth but going public in a few months, working on language support for modern editors, previews and our own editor right now! It's a unified solution that gives developers more freedom of choice, with some versions of it already battle tested in large production apps. If you're up for it, I would love to be able to email you when we release the public version or maybe even earlier.

deergomoo 5y ago

> that renders to it's own widgets I've always felt this to be a net negative, and it puts me off Flutter more than anything else. I know it has no bearing on the app developer or the end user, but there's something about pouring thousands of person-hours into making a facsimile of something that already exists (especially something that has already had thousands of person-hours put into usability and accessibility) that feels so wasteful. It's silly I know, but it just doesn't sit right with me.

chgibb 5y ago

Not Kotlin, but working to bring Flutter to other languages https://hydro-sdk.io/ https://hydro-sdk.io/

sebe 5y ago

"But Flutter choosing Dart" Maybe kotlin was a year too late, not making it to 1.0 till February 15, 2016. The sky project that became flutter was demoed at the April 2015 dart conf. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnIWl33YMwA As regards Javascript, that's what they started with, they looked at other languages and gave dart a go, it gave them faster startup and the dart team offered them stateful hot reload. Anyway working in the chrome space, they prob didn't know that Kotlin existed pre 2015 and prob would have gone with Python if could.

EvilEy3 5y ago

No, right now the only way to target all platforms is JavaScript. Flutter's desktop and web support is a sad joke, and even on mobile it doesn't feel native even on Android.