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But the MBAs have already done the [creative] thinking. They just want to throw the spec over the fence and have coders code it. /s

by jrs235 6y ago

loopz 6y ago
Your job is to make their wishful thinking the thundering success they deserve. To counter the original point, I find removing obstacles and latency-inducing loops helpful, to start seeing what the work really should be. Gaining efficiency through simplifying is a good thing, and can be creative too. The goal is not efficiency though.
- carbonguy 6y ago
  I think you're on to something important here - the word "efficiency" is used to describe optimization in two different mental regimes: one, "how to meet a given quality of work with the minimum of friction/wastage" vs two, "how to perform the maximal work within a fixed resource allocation." They sound similar, which is probably why we use the word "efficiency" to describe improvements in both regimes, but the fundamental constraint is different: in the first case, it's the standard of work that must be achieved; in the second, it's the resources allocated to the work. I'd summarize the first "do enough with enough" and the second as "do more with less." What you describe sounds like "doing enough with enough:" given the work to be done, how can we remove resource-draining obstacles, idle loops, etc. and identify "what the work really should be?" - is that a fair assessment or am I off the mark?
  - loopz 6y ago
    With both words, efficiency and effectiveness, intention is missing. I'd rather people come up with their own ideas.
- bckr 6y ago
  > I find removing obstacles and latency-inducing loops helpful, to start seeing what the work really should be. Should MBA's be studying DevOps?
  - loopz 6y ago
    XOps. It helps to ask around.
    - bckr 5y ago
      Say more about XOps? From where I sit, DevOps is "about" treating software product more like modern manufacturing products && tightening the feedback loops between development and operations... How does that translate to, say, Graphic design, Finance, X where X==$operational_unit? > It helps to ask around It helps whom to ask whom about what?

But the MBAs have already done the [creative] thinking. They just want to throw the spec over the fence and have coders code it. /s

by jrs235 6y ago

But the MBAs have already done the [creative] thinking. They just want to throw the spec over the fence and have coders code it. /s

loopz 6y ago

Your job is to make their wishful thinking the thundering success they deserve. To counter the original point, I find removing obstacles and latency-inducing loops helpful, to start seeing what the work really should be. Gaining efficiency through simplifying is a good thing, and can be creative too. The goal is not efficiency though.

carbonguy 6y ago
I think you're on to something important here - the word "efficiency" is used to describe optimization in two different mental regimes: one, "how to meet a given quality of work with the minimum of friction/wastage" vs two, "how to perform the maximal work within a fixed resource allocation." They sound similar, which is probably why we use the word "efficiency" to describe improvements in both regimes, but the fundamental constraint is different: in the first case, it's the standard of work that must be achieved; in the second, it's the resources allocated to the work. I'd summarize the first "do enough with enough" and the second as "do more with less." What you describe sounds like "doing enough with enough:" given the work to be done, how can we remove resource-draining obstacles, idle loops, etc. and identify "what the work really should be?" - is that a fair assessment or am I off the mark?
- loopz 6y ago
  With both words, efficiency and effectiveness, intention is missing. I'd rather people come up with their own ideas.
bckr 6y ago
> I find removing obstacles and latency-inducing loops helpful, to start seeing what the work really should be. Should MBA's be studying DevOps?
- loopz 6y ago
  XOps. It helps to ask around.
  - bckr 5y ago
    Say more about XOps? From where I sit, DevOps is "about" treating software product more like modern manufacturing products && tightening the feedback loops between development and operations... How does that translate to, say, Graphic design, Finance, X where X==$operational_unit? > It helps to ask around It helps whom to ask whom about what?