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I don't really understand this. Houston didn't grow because of natural population growth (at least, mostly not). It grew because people wanted to move there,

I don't really understand this. Houston didn't grow because of natural population growth (at least, mostly not). It grew because people wanted to move there, jobs were good, and housing was (relatively) cheap. It's what people wanted. How could you possibly indict this?

DubiousPusher 6y ago
> wanted to move there Correction. It grew because lots of people did move there. People move despite their personal feelings all the time.
seattle_spring 6y ago
I lived in SF for a couple years but I sure didn't want to live there. I went where the jobs were.
- davidw 6y ago
  Well, you wanted to live where there were a lot of jobs. Not everyone made that choice. I've worked as a programmer in Italy, Austria and now Oregon. So maybe you didn't "want" to live there, but you chose to. Same with Houston, just that it's also accessible to people who aren't making tons of money as software engineers.
  - throwawayfrauds 6y ago
    Most people don’t have the options that programmers do when it comes to jobs and homes, especially people who live in Houston.
    - davidw 6y ago
      Right - the SF Bay Area has a housing policy that excludes people who don't have the means that programmers do. Houston does not.
site-packages1 6y ago
Jobs were good, but lots of people move somewhere for work. I know people who moved to the miserable (according to them) tundra in Canada for super well paying oil jobs, but they didn't want to move there because of the tundra, but because of the jobs. Calculated decision. Many people "want" a high paying, stable job and thus move somewhere because of that. Anecdotally, I spent two decades in Houston and have a pretty good feel for it. It has many redeeming qualities and will always have a place in my heart, but most people I talk to find the flatness, lack of seasons, and oppressive heat to be too much of downsides to "want" to live there. I don't think I have ever met anyone ever who moved to Houston because they wanted to move to Houston in the same way people move to Florida or San Diego or Denver because they want to move to those places.

DubiousPusher 6y ago

> wanted to move there Correction. It grew because lots of people did move there. People move despite their personal feelings all the time.

seattle_spring 6y ago

I lived in SF for a couple years but I sure didn't want to live there. I went where the jobs were.

davidw 6y ago
Well, you wanted to live where there were a lot of jobs. Not everyone made that choice. I've worked as a programmer in Italy, Austria and now Oregon. So maybe you didn't "want" to live there, but you chose to. Same with Houston, just that it's also accessible to people who aren't making tons of money as software engineers.
- throwawayfrauds 6y ago
  Most people don’t have the options that programmers do when it comes to jobs and homes, especially people who live in Houston.
  - davidw 6y ago
    Right - the SF Bay Area has a housing policy that excludes people who don't have the means that programmers do. Houston does not.

site-packages1 6y ago

Jobs were good, but lots of people move somewhere for work. I know people who moved to the miserable (according to them) tundra in Canada for super well paying oil jobs, but they didn't want to move there because of the tundra, but because of the jobs. Calculated decision. Many people "want" a high paying, stable job and thus move somewhere because of that. Anecdotally, I spent two decades in Houston and have a pretty good feel for it. It has many redeeming qualities and will always have a place in my heart, but most people I talk to find the flatness, lack of seasons, and oppressive heat to be too much of downsides to "want" to live there. I don't think I have ever met anyone ever who moved to Houston because they wanted to move to Houston in the same way people move to Florida or San Diego or Denver because they want to move to those places.