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> Since then I've thought of locks more like deterrent than bulletproof security. To be fair most american houses are built such that a reasonably burly person
by Swizec 6y ago
> Since then I've thought of locks more like deterrent than bulletproof security.
To be fair most american houses are built such that a reasonably burly person could punch through the wall. I’ve seen friends leave big holes in the wall just from falling down some stairs. Glass windows also are easy to get through.
The problem with lock-picking is that it doesn’t leave signs of a break-in.
- OminousWeapons 6y agoYea at the end of the day it's all about what your threat model is. The strategies you use to defend against overt entry are not the same as the strategies you use to defend against covert entry (although there is overlap).
- maxerickson 6y agoIt would suck to punch through OSB, which is the wall sheathing in most modern US houses.
- Scoundreller 6y agoOSB? That would be a very expensive fix.
- jschwartzi 6y agoUse an axe or a chainsaw.
- knute 6y agoThere was a while in the 90s/00s when code only required wood sheathing on the corners, and elsewhere you could have just insulating foam sheathing. So if you had vinyl siding, someone could pretty easily break into your house with just box cutters.
- Scoundreller 6y ago> The problem with lock-picking is that it doesn’t leave signs of a break-in. Sorta. Lock picking will leave marks/wear that no key would. So I recommend everyone try to pick their own lock today to make it look like someone picked it for up-to-no-good reasons.
- outworlder 6y agoDo not pick any locks you intend to actually use or can't easily replace! Sure, some locks won't care. But there are some that can permanently jam pins if you don't know what you are doing (and, in some cases, even if you do).
- falcolas 6y agoLPL even shows how to create one of these from a fairly ordinary core and some master discs.
- kube-system 6y agoI'm sure your friends have probably made holes from the interior drywall and into the wall cavity, but I doubt that hole went through the exterior sheathing or siding. The interior drywall is basically decorative. To get all the way through the wall, you're going to need a bit more than a punch. It could be done with basic tools, but regardless, breaking a window is still a quicker way inside, and most houses around the world have that as a weakness.
- Swizec 6y agoYou are probably correct. However I’ve heard fun stories from my part of Europe where most people live in apartment buildings and own their apartment. Armored doors are a popular upgrade. But nobody upgrades the thin brick wall holding that fancy $3000 armored door ... you can guess what started happening as thieves realized the doors are too difficult and a window on 5th floor isn’t very accessible.
- foobarian 6y agoI'm 70% sure you are hinting at thieves cutting holes in the wall. The 30% is for stealing the $3000 door. :)
- sunshineforever 6y agoI always remembered this happening in Artemis Fowl :) And also from a darkweb guide to burglary. "Cut a hole in the door and the alarm won't go off"
- sizzle 6y agoAlso punching into a stud behind drywall would not end well…