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As a partial response to the part about accessibility, Clubhouse is now quite accessible to blind people, and a growing proportion of the online blind community

As a partial response to the part about accessibility, Clubhouse is now quite accessible to blind people, and a growing proportion of the online blind community is embracing it. Here's a podcast episode about Clubhouse from a blindness perspective: https://mosen.org/episode-99-all-you-need-to-know-about-clubhouse-from-a-blindness-perspective/ https://mosen.org/episode-99-all-you-need-to-know-about-club... Of course, the fact that it excludes deaf people is still a concern.

bpodgursky 6y ago
> Of course, the fact that it excludes deaf people is still a concern. I don't even understand this. What are you suggesting? That auto-captioning be mandatory for all voice applications? The technology is only barely there, and is crazy expensive to consume unless you've developed the tech in-house (ie, Google). What about Discord or just normal phones -- are those fine? If you're just saying "have text-only channels" I don't understand the point of using Clubhouse in the first place. There are a ton of great text-only messaging platforms.
- mwcampbell 6y ago
  > If you're just saying "have text-only channels" I don't understand the point of using Clubhouse in the first place. There are a ton of great text-only messaging platforms. And that's why I'm staying away from Clubhouse as long as I can. I believe that we should prefer text for important discussions, so as not to leave people out. We're still learning how to effectively have online discussions in text, but I think it's too soon to give up on it and retreat to relying on audio.
  - jazzyjackson 6y ago
    You wouldn't believe how many people you're leaving out by expecting anyone to sit in front of a screen and read and write text comments. Even if you can read and type fast, a lot of people don't care to sit on forums and squint at their screen, typing out their ideas on little iphone keyboards. The friction to hearing and expressing ideas is way lower via audio chat. It's just a different population than everyone here, content to read text and compose replies. I also don't know why you brought in "important discussions" - while I had a great 3 hour conversation last night on how to resolve disputes without authorities, I joined a room just because I saw some friends there playing "never have I ever", I didn't go seeking out an important discussion but I had one anyway, that's what gets people talking about their positive experience - the spontaneity and unexpected outcomes of it.
    - mwcampbell 6y ago
      > expecting anyone to sit in front of a screen and read and write text comments I didn't say anything about how that text is written or read. Remember that I started this thread by talking about how blind people can use Clubhouse with their screen reader. So I encourage a variety of input and output methods -- keyboards of all kinds, speech recognition supplemented by whatever methods we can come up with to edit the dictated text, screens, text-to-speech output, etc.
- BlueTemplar 6y ago
  Yeah, it's not like a solution for deaf people cannot be built on top of Clubhouse ? Oh wait, it's a closed source application on top of a extremely closed down OS, never mind...

bpodgursky 6y ago

> Of course, the fact that it excludes deaf people is still a concern. I don't even understand this. What are you suggesting? That auto-captioning be mandatory for all voice applications? The technology is only barely there, and is crazy expensive to consume unless you've developed the tech in-house (ie, Google). What about Discord or just normal phones -- are those fine? If you're just saying "have text-only channels" I don't understand the point of using Clubhouse in the first place. There are a ton of great text-only messaging platforms.

mwcampbell 6y ago
> If you're just saying "have text-only channels" I don't understand the point of using Clubhouse in the first place. There are a ton of great text-only messaging platforms. And that's why I'm staying away from Clubhouse as long as I can. I believe that we should prefer text for important discussions, so as not to leave people out. We're still learning how to effectively have online discussions in text, but I think it's too soon to give up on it and retreat to relying on audio.
- jazzyjackson 6y ago
  You wouldn't believe how many people you're leaving out by expecting anyone to sit in front of a screen and read and write text comments. Even if you can read and type fast, a lot of people don't care to sit on forums and squint at their screen, typing out their ideas on little iphone keyboards. The friction to hearing and expressing ideas is way lower via audio chat. It's just a different population than everyone here, content to read text and compose replies. I also don't know why you brought in "important discussions" - while I had a great 3 hour conversation last night on how to resolve disputes without authorities, I joined a room just because I saw some friends there playing "never have I ever", I didn't go seeking out an important discussion but I had one anyway, that's what gets people talking about their positive experience - the spontaneity and unexpected outcomes of it.
  - mwcampbell 6y ago
    > expecting anyone to sit in front of a screen and read and write text comments I didn't say anything about how that text is written or read. Remember that I started this thread by talking about how blind people can use Clubhouse with their screen reader. So I encourage a variety of input and output methods -- keyboards of all kinds, speech recognition supplemented by whatever methods we can come up with to edit the dictated text, screens, text-to-speech output, etc.
BlueTemplar 6y ago
Yeah, it's not like a solution for deaf people cannot be built on top of Clubhouse ? Oh wait, it's a closed source application on top of a extremely closed down OS, never mind...