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I haven't touched windows as a software developer since around 2008, so I don't know what's going on in there really. So long as I can launch games in my steam

by konart 5y ago

I haven't touched windows as a software developer since around 2008, so I don't know what's going on in there really. So long as I can launch games in my steam lib I'm fine. My main working OS was Ubuntu (~2006-2010) and Arch(20010-2013). Then I got tired of my Android phone and switched to iPhone and mac book. (if that matters somehow) As for you question - you were saying, quote: >this is as untrue as "Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop" was so far (posting from laptop running Linux) when answering to > Linux desktop is nowhere I was merely pointing out that your preferences has nothing to do with general situation. And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Obviously linux was on desktop since 90s You do you, nobody is trying to take it away from you.

ryukafalz 5y ago
> you were saying, quote I mean, you're not quoting me there, but... :) > Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Eh, the phrase has always been ill-defined. It could be interpreted as talking about marketshare - but it could also be interpreted as the point where Linux is technically as or more capable than its competitors as a desktop OS. That point has come and gone. (And really, the phrase tends to be used more as a potshot at Linux users than anything actually meaningful.)
matkoniecz 5y ago
> And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. It is not the same as "Linux desktop is nowhere" 2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Desktop_and_laptop_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...
- konart 5y ago
  >And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. Sure, and if you take even smaller fraction you may find numbers like 50% or higher. But what does it have to do with general situation we are talking about? This sounds like those weird surveys: "9 out of 10 people said that quit smoking this yeah!" but after reading more you realise they were talking to people from a hospice or tuberculosis dispensary. >2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". Okay. That's your stance, I accept it. Mine is that 2% is nowhere.

by konart 5y ago

ryukafalz 5y ago

> you were saying, quote I mean, you're not quoting me there, but... :) > Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Eh, the phrase has always been ill-defined. It could be interpreted as talking about marketshare - but it could also be interpreted as the point where Linux is technically as or more capable than its competitors as a desktop OS. That point has come and gone. (And really, the phrase tends to be used more as a potshot at Linux users than anything actually meaningful.)

matkoniecz 5y ago

> And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. It is not the same as "Linux desktop is nowhere" 2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Desktop_and_laptop_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...

konart 5y ago
>And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. Sure, and if you take even smaller fraction you may find numbers like 50% or higher. But what does it have to do with general situation we are talking about? This sounds like those weird surveys: "9 out of 10 people said that quit smoking this yeah!" but after reading more you realise they were talking to people from a hospice or tuberculosis dispensary. >2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". Okay. That's your stance, I accept it. Mine is that 2% is nowhere.