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>this is as untrue as "Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop" was so far (posting from laptop running Linux) This will be untrue when linux will have not

by konart 5y ago

>this is as untrue as "Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop" was so far (posting from laptop running Linux) This will be untrue when linux will have noticeable* share of installs. Not just you and some other tech guys who amount to grand total of 2-3% of desktop systems. [*] - at least 10-15%.

ryukafalz 5y ago
Who cares if its marketshare is above some arbitrary number so long as there's enough interest to keep development going? It doesn't matter to me what other people are using, I find Linux desktops to be the most comfortable thing for me, so I use them! If other people are satisfied with Windows and everything that goes along with it (forced auto-updates, ads, etc) - fine! You do you. I'm happy with what I have though.
- konart 5y ago
  I haven't touched windows as a software developer since around 2008, so I don't know what's going on in there really. So long as I can launch games in my steam lib I'm fine. My main working OS was Ubuntu (~2006-2010) and Arch(20010-2013). Then I got tired of my Android phone and switched to iPhone and mac book. (if that matters somehow) As for you question - you were saying, quote: >this is as untrue as "Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop" was so far (posting from laptop running Linux) when answering to > Linux desktop is nowhere I was merely pointing out that your preferences has nothing to do with general situation. And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Obviously linux was on desktop since 90s You do you, nobody is trying to take it away from you.
  - ryukafalz 5y ago
    > you were saying, quote I mean, you're not quoting me there, but... :) > Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Eh, the phrase has always been ill-defined. It could be interpreted as talking about marketshare - but it could also be interpreted as the point where Linux is technically as or more capable than its competitors as a desktop OS. That point has come and gone. (And really, the phrase tends to be used more as a potshot at Linux users than anything actually meaningful.)
  - matkoniecz 5y ago
    > And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. It is not the same as "Linux desktop is nowhere" 2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Desktop_and_laptop_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...
    - konart 5y ago
      >And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. Sure, and if you take even smaller fraction you may find numbers like 50% or higher. But what does it have to do with general situation we are talking about? This sounds like those weird surveys: "9 out of 10 people said that quit smoking this yeah!" but after reading more you realise they were talking to people from a hospice or tuberculosis dispensary. >2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". Okay. That's your stance, I accept it. Mine is that 2% is nowhere.

by konart 5y ago

ryukafalz 5y ago

Who cares if its marketshare is above some arbitrary number so long as there's enough interest to keep development going? It doesn't matter to me what other people are using, I find Linux desktops to be the most comfortable thing for me, so I use them! If other people are satisfied with Windows and everything that goes along with it (forced auto-updates, ads, etc) - fine! You do you. I'm happy with what I have though.

konart 5y ago
I haven't touched windows as a software developer since around 2008, so I don't know what's going on in there really. So long as I can launch games in my steam lib I'm fine. My main working OS was Ubuntu (~2006-2010) and Arch(20010-2013). Then I got tired of my Android phone and switched to iPhone and mac book. (if that matters somehow) As for you question - you were saying, quote: >this is as untrue as "Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop" was so far (posting from laptop running Linux) when answering to > Linux desktop is nowhere I was merely pointing out that your preferences has nothing to do with general situation. And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Obviously linux was on desktop since 90s You do you, nobody is trying to take it away from you.
- ryukafalz 5y ago
  > you were saying, quote I mean, you're not quoting me there, but... :) > Hence no 'Year $YEAR will be year of Linux on desktop"' being not true so far. The phrase was and is about linux taking some meaningfull portion of market for itself, not about a you using it. Eh, the phrase has always been ill-defined. It could be interpreted as talking about marketshare - but it could also be interpreted as the point where Linux is technically as or more capable than its competitors as a desktop OS. That point has come and gone. (And really, the phrase tends to be used more as a potshot at Linux users than anything actually meaningful.)
- matkoniecz 5y ago
  > And the general situation is that Linux is almost nonexistent on desktop. It is not the same as "Linux desktop is nowhere" 2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. See https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_systems#Desktop_and_laptop_computers https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usage_share_of_operating_syste...
  - konart 5y ago
    >And in some populations (like programmers) use is much higher, 25% according to SO survey. Sure, and if you take even smaller fraction you may find numbers like 50% or higher. But what does it have to do with general situation we are talking about? This sounds like those weird surveys: "9 out of 10 people said that quit smoking this yeah!" but after reading more you realise they were talking to people from a hospice or tuberculosis dispensary. >2% in total population is tiny but not "nowhere". Okay. That's your stance, I accept it. Mine is that 2% is nowhere.