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I think eating a lot of red meat is one of the greatest moral problems in our society today from climate change, factory farming, and habitat destruction. I do

by jshen 5y ago

I think eating a lot of red meat is one of the greatest moral problems in our society today from climate change, factory farming, and habitat destruction. I don’t think I should be haranguing people at work about it.

pavlov 5y ago
You’re invited to a work dinner that only has meat on the menu. Do you bring up the lack of a vegetarian option? Or should you shut up and not eat anything (or skip the social event) because colleagues know you’re a vegetarian and you don’t want to be perceived as haranguing people at work about it? I once had a job where I’d just signed the offer and was invited to their team dinner before my official start date. It was at a restaurant that only served chicken that you were supposed to eat with rubber gloves (I have no idea what that was about). It was uncomfortable to realize that I stood out like a sore thumb even before I’d started just because of a dietary preference. It had never occurred to the managers that a regular-looking man who joins their team might not eat meat.
- pbhjpbhj 5y ago
  Well, I was invited, shortly after starting a new job, to a restaurant that I couldn't afford. So I said, I'm sorry I can't go, and that was that. Definitely a very awkward way to start as it was from their point of view a welcoming meal. I can't quite tell, did you go to the chicken place? Have things improved?
  - pavlov 5y ago
    I did go because I hadn’t realized it was a weird chicken place until I got there and was offered the rubber gloves. I left that job after six months. The four male founders turned out to be old buddies who wanted everyone in their little club to be exactly like them but with a deference to their incredible competence as employers. Maybe I’ve been unlucky, but I have the impression that small business tech jobs mostly suck. (Basecamp has a bit of that vibe, to be honest.)
  - baggy_trough 5y ago
    They weren’t going to pay for you?
- jshen 5y ago
  That’s not what I mean. When I see coworkers eating red meat on a regular basis, I believe they are committing a grave moral injustice. I do not believe that the work place is the right place to push them on that issue.
- aalbacetef 5y ago
  I can see why that's not a nice feeling but honestly, if you realize this is pretty much an alternative lifestyle, then it should be completely fine when told: "hey there's a team dinner", to mention the fact that you are meat-free. What's wrong: if they decide to not care about that. What's right: they accommodate your dietary preferences. Don't think you should put the burden on other people to consider these kinds of things beforehand. It's great if they do, but it's not an issue if they don't.
  - pavlov 5y ago
    I also eat fish on occasion. It’s extremely rare a restaurant has nothing for me. Which is the alternative lifestyle, mine or the one where everyone at a company eats chicken with rubber gloves?

by jshen 5y ago

pavlov 5y ago

You’re invited to a work dinner that only has meat on the menu. Do you bring up the lack of a vegetarian option? Or should you shut up and not eat anything (or skip the social event) because colleagues know you’re a vegetarian and you don’t want to be perceived as haranguing people at work about it? I once had a job where I’d just signed the offer and was invited to their team dinner before my official start date. It was at a restaurant that only served chicken that you were supposed to eat with rubber gloves (I have no idea what that was about). It was uncomfortable to realize that I stood out like a sore thumb even before I’d started just because of a dietary preference. It had never occurred to the managers that a regular-looking man who joins their team might not eat meat.

pbhjpbhj 5y ago
Well, I was invited, shortly after starting a new job, to a restaurant that I couldn't afford. So I said, I'm sorry I can't go, and that was that. Definitely a very awkward way to start as it was from their point of view a welcoming meal. I can't quite tell, did you go to the chicken place? Have things improved?
- pavlov 5y ago
  I did go because I hadn’t realized it was a weird chicken place until I got there and was offered the rubber gloves. I left that job after six months. The four male founders turned out to be old buddies who wanted everyone in their little club to be exactly like them but with a deference to their incredible competence as employers. Maybe I’ve been unlucky, but I have the impression that small business tech jobs mostly suck. (Basecamp has a bit of that vibe, to be honest.)
- baggy_trough 5y ago
  They weren’t going to pay for you?
jshen 5y ago
That’s not what I mean. When I see coworkers eating red meat on a regular basis, I believe they are committing a grave moral injustice. I do not believe that the work place is the right place to push them on that issue.
aalbacetef 5y ago
I can see why that's not a nice feeling but honestly, if you realize this is pretty much an alternative lifestyle, then it should be completely fine when told: "hey there's a team dinner", to mention the fact that you are meat-free. What's wrong: if they decide to not care about that. What's right: they accommodate your dietary preferences. Don't think you should put the burden on other people to consider these kinds of things beforehand. It's great if they do, but it's not an issue if they don't.
- pavlov 5y ago
  I also eat fish on occasion. It’s extremely rare a restaurant has nothing for me. Which is the alternative lifestyle, mine or the one where everyone at a company eats chicken with rubber gloves?