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I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but if not, this is wrong. If you were swayed by the article's point that Fortnite made "only" $700M on iOS, consider th

by aroman 5y ago

I'm pretty sure you're being sarcastic, but if not, this is wrong. If you were swayed by the article's point that Fortnite made "only" $700M on iOS, consider that revenue from mobile gaming accounts for half of the revenue for the entire video game industry, across all platforms — console and PC combined. Source: https://www.statista.com/topics/1906/mobile-gaming/ https://www.statista.com/topics/1906/mobile-gaming/ edit: fixed source

TenJack 5y ago
Just to clarify, are you saying Fortnite made as much as half the total of the e tire gaming industry on iOS?
- aroman 5y ago
  No. This is what I'm pointing out: the entire video game industry generated about $175 billion in revenue last year. Of that, about half (43%) came from mobile gaming. Here is a more direct quote from statistia: " In 2020, smartphone games generated approximately 74.9 billion U.S. dollars in annual revenue, accounting for 43 percent of the global gaming market during the measured period. Console games were ranked second with 51.2 billion U.S. dollars in global revenue."
  - elefanten 5y ago
    OP is implying that people are playing on phones because they have them, not because it’s a good experience. This could be especially true of a core (not casual) game like a shooter.
    - rightbyte 5y ago
      Maybe kids are doing purchases on the phone but playing on a computer, inflating the phone "market share"?
  - Hammershaft 5y ago
    Good god is that depressing. The fact that the cheap, shallow, and manipulative tripe that fills the App Store & Play Store to the brim are pulling so many players and so many dollars is genuinely depressing.
    - astrange 5y ago
      The top games (Among Us, Roblox) aren't AAA but they aren't that. The most popular gacha games I know of (Granblue, FGO) are actually extremely over-detailed if anything.
  - myko 5y ago
    I get the impression that money spent on mobile games is from scamming parents in children's games with dark patterns that lead young children to making in app purchases. I think looking at the number of folks playing Fortnite on each platform and comparing that gives a better idea of where gamers prefer to play games.
    - monocasa 5y ago
      My understanding is that whales are generally adults that have been taken in by the extremely addictive mechanics of the games. Like an old lady that dumps her pension into penny slots every day.
    - aroman 5y ago
      If you have a source for that impression, I'd be very interested to see it. > gamers prefer to play games most of the money being made in mobile gaming is coming from people who would not self-identify as "gamers". If you're just considered about where "gamers" want to game, then sure. But that's excluding a massive (and the fastest-growing) segment of the video games industry.
    - havernator 5y ago
      Consider: visual novels, even when entirely linear, probably count as “games” for mobile sales. They’re damn popular, are often episodic or series or have DLC to drive more sales, et c. And that’s just one kind of non-“gamer” game that’s huge on mobile.
      - sinistro25 5y ago
        Visual novels are classified as a game on every store I've seen, be it mobile, pc or console.
    - AlfeG 5y ago
      Most of the donateshitgames are targeted for adults with money actually. There is built-in socialized competition on donates. In every guild/group/party without donating You will be outsider and a person that pull whole team down.
  - numpad0 5y ago
    Are you sure those revenues are coming from competitive games like Fortnite and not from playing cards worth of App Store gift cards that gacha addicts are stacking up
Wowfunhappy 5y ago
“Game” is an overloaded term that encompasses too many types of experiences. Relatively few people want to play games like Fortnite on their phones. A great many people want to play crossword puzzles.
- aroman 5y ago
  I agree with the point about game being overloaded, but the statement that relatively few people want to play games like fortnite on their phones is clearly false. PubG alone has tens of millions of people who play it exclusively on mobile, and it is very much a game like fortnite.
- addicted 5y ago
  Also, a lot of what passes for games on mobile phones are little more than addictions that strip you off your money. The consoles would never allow them and even if they did, people don’t mindlessly get addicted to crap when playing on a console like they do on their phones.
  - deleted 5y ago
    [deleted]
  - temp5565_65 5y ago
    Lots of mobile "games" are basically a casino, but the currency is time and you don't ever win anything. This is to the point that when I open older (pre-microtransaction) games on my PC, I'm momentarily disoriented because those mechanics are missing and I've gotten so used to them because they are so ubiquitous.
  - AlexandrB 5y ago
    > The consoles would never allow them They allow Fortnite[1], don't they? Or more recently Genshin Impact, which is a pure "gatcha" game - as "mobile" as it gets - and is probably doing very well[2] on PS4/5. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHPNgIihR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHPNgIihR0 [2] https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/genshin-impact-mobile-revenue-report/ https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/genshin-impact-mobile-reve... Edit: Oh, I totally forgot about the original console "strip you of your money" game: Fifa[3]. [3] https://screenrant.com/fifa-ultimate-team-ea-total-revenue-6-billion/ https://screenrant.com/fifa-ultimate-team-ea-total-revenue-6...

by aroman 5y ago

TenJack 5y ago

Just to clarify, are you saying Fortnite made as much as half the total of the e tire gaming industry on iOS?

aroman 5y ago
No. This is what I'm pointing out: the entire video game industry generated about $175 billion in revenue last year. Of that, about half (43%) came from mobile gaming. Here is a more direct quote from statistia: " In 2020, smartphone games generated approximately 74.9 billion U.S. dollars in annual revenue, accounting for 43 percent of the global gaming market during the measured period. Console games were ranked second with 51.2 billion U.S. dollars in global revenue."
- elefanten 5y ago
  OP is implying that people are playing on phones because they have them, not because it’s a good experience. This could be especially true of a core (not casual) game like a shooter.
  - rightbyte 5y ago
    Maybe kids are doing purchases on the phone but playing on a computer, inflating the phone "market share"?
- Hammershaft 5y ago
  Good god is that depressing. The fact that the cheap, shallow, and manipulative tripe that fills the App Store & Play Store to the brim are pulling so many players and so many dollars is genuinely depressing.
  - astrange 5y ago
    The top games (Among Us, Roblox) aren't AAA but they aren't that. The most popular gacha games I know of (Granblue, FGO) are actually extremely over-detailed if anything.
- myko 5y ago
  I get the impression that money spent on mobile games is from scamming parents in children's games with dark patterns that lead young children to making in app purchases. I think looking at the number of folks playing Fortnite on each platform and comparing that gives a better idea of where gamers prefer to play games.
  - monocasa 5y ago
    My understanding is that whales are generally adults that have been taken in by the extremely addictive mechanics of the games. Like an old lady that dumps her pension into penny slots every day.
  - aroman 5y ago
    If you have a source for that impression, I'd be very interested to see it. > gamers prefer to play games most of the money being made in mobile gaming is coming from people who would not self-identify as "gamers". If you're just considered about where "gamers" want to game, then sure. But that's excluding a massive (and the fastest-growing) segment of the video games industry.
  - havernator 5y ago
    Consider: visual novels, even when entirely linear, probably count as “games” for mobile sales. They’re damn popular, are often episodic or series or have DLC to drive more sales, et c. And that’s just one kind of non-“gamer” game that’s huge on mobile.
    - sinistro25 5y ago
      Visual novels are classified as a game on every store I've seen, be it mobile, pc or console.
  - AlfeG 5y ago
    Most of the donateshitgames are targeted for adults with money actually. There is built-in socialized competition on donates. In every guild/group/party without donating You will be outsider and a person that pull whole team down.
- numpad0 5y ago
  Are you sure those revenues are coming from competitive games like Fortnite and not from playing cards worth of App Store gift cards that gacha addicts are stacking up

Wowfunhappy 5y ago

“Game” is an overloaded term that encompasses too many types of experiences. Relatively few people want to play games like Fortnite on their phones. A great many people want to play crossword puzzles.

aroman 5y ago
I agree with the point about game being overloaded, but the statement that relatively few people want to play games like fortnite on their phones is clearly false. PubG alone has tens of millions of people who play it exclusively on mobile, and it is very much a game like fortnite.
addicted 5y ago
Also, a lot of what passes for games on mobile phones are little more than addictions that strip you off your money. The consoles would never allow them and even if they did, people don’t mindlessly get addicted to crap when playing on a console like they do on their phones.
- deleted 5y ago
  [deleted]
- temp5565_65 5y ago
  Lots of mobile "games" are basically a casino, but the currency is time and you don't ever win anything. This is to the point that when I open older (pre-microtransaction) games on my PC, I'm momentarily disoriented because those mechanics are missing and I've gotten so used to them because they are so ubiquitous.
- AlexandrB 5y ago
  > The consoles would never allow them They allow Fortnite[1], don't they? Or more recently Genshin Impact, which is a pure "gatcha" game - as "mobile" as it gets - and is probably doing very well[2] on PS4/5. [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHPNgIihR0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dPHPNgIihR0 [2] https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/genshin-impact-mobile-revenue-report/ https://comicbook.com/gaming/news/genshin-impact-mobile-reve... Edit: Oh, I totally forgot about the original console "strip you of your money" game: Fifa[3]. [3] https://screenrant.com/fifa-ultimate-team-ea-total-revenue-6-billion/ https://screenrant.com/fifa-ultimate-team-ea-total-revenue-6...