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They are repeating RIM's mistakes. It fascinates me they haven't actually jumped on the services train, they just started charging a monthly fee for the walled

by tw04 6y ago

They are repeating RIM's mistakes. It fascinates me they haven't actually jumped on the services train, they just started charging a monthly fee for the walled garden while still focusing on selling product and called it a services play.

jeromegv 6y ago
So far RIM consumer business went bankrupt and Apple keeps growing quarter after quarter. I would doubt that this strategy, which they have held for a decade on iOS is anything like RIM mistakes.
threeseed 6y ago
Apple's services includes AppleTV+, Apple Music, Apple Fitness+, Apple News+, Apple Podcasts+, iCloud Storage. And it represents 20% of Apple's revenue so pretty sure this "they haven't actually jumped on the services train" comment is just a little off.
- vetinari 6y ago
  I've got a free year of Apple TV with a new Mac. Nobody in our household is watching it; it has no app for Android TV.
  - ViViDboarder 6y ago
    Ted Lasso is worth watching. Other than that, I didn’t use my year trial either.
    - vetinari 6y ago
      I registered only because I'm curious how they will do Asimov's Foundation (once it happens). Otherwise I would not bother.
temp667 6y ago
I totally agree with this. iMessage as a stand alone business would be super valuable. WhatsApp is valuable because so many people use it. Chase the network effect or it will crush you. Worst cast make people pay for some apple services to get iMessage if you really want to. They really are repeating RIM's mistake here. iMessage would be trusted, largely spam free, etc. My wife is now on Google Duo because it IS cross platform. WhatsApp and Telegram as well. These messaging networks are natural monopolies. So now I am on Duo etc. I just wish her parents could have installed iMessage on their phones - then apple could have charged us all $5/month for some type of family (10 person) plan.

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They are repeating RIM's mistakes. It fascinates me they haven't actually jumped on the services train, they just started charging a monthly fee for the walled

by tw04 6y ago

jeromegv 6y ago
So far RIM consumer business went bankrupt and Apple keeps growing quarter after quarter. I would doubt that this strategy, which they have held for a decade on iOS is anything like RIM mistakes.
threeseed 6y ago
Apple's services includes AppleTV+, Apple Music, Apple Fitness+, Apple News+, Apple Podcasts+, iCloud Storage. And it represents 20% of Apple's revenue so pretty sure this "they haven't actually jumped on the services train" comment is just a little off.
- vetinari 6y ago
  I've got a free year of Apple TV with a new Mac. Nobody in our household is watching it; it has no app for Android TV.
  - ViViDboarder 6y ago
    Ted Lasso is worth watching. Other than that, I didn’t use my year trial either.
    - vetinari 6y ago
      I registered only because I'm curious how they will do Asimov's Foundation (once it happens). Otherwise I would not bother.
temp667 6y ago
I totally agree with this. iMessage as a stand alone business would be super valuable. WhatsApp is valuable because so many people use it. Chase the network effect or it will crush you. Worst cast make people pay for some apple services to get iMessage if you really want to. They really are repeating RIM's mistake here. iMessage would be trusted, largely spam free, etc. My wife is now on Google Duo because it IS cross platform. WhatsApp and Telegram as well. These messaging networks are natural monopolies. So now I am on Duo etc. I just wish her parents could have installed iMessage on their phones - then apple could have charged us all $5/month for some type of family (10 person) plan.