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What is "the spirit of Apple"?

amelius 6y ago
Think different.
slt2021 6y ago
extracting as much of "Apple premium" out of brand-loyal customers as possible and keeping that "Apple premium" perception in consumers' minds
halotrope 6y ago
Focus, products instilled with culture, starting with the user experience, attention to detail, cohesive ecosystem, good design, delivering high quality products at the lowest price possible, not shipping things that are not ready.
- loloquwowndueo 6y ago
  “Quality products at Lowest price possible” you’re probably being sarcastic. Just look at wired AirPods, among the most maligned earbud headphones and quite expensive within their category.
  - NationalPark 6y ago
    The $19 EarPods?
    - loloquwowndueo 6y ago
      Yes those! Sorry :)
  - FredPret 6y ago
    Airpods are expensive but amazing
- haunter 6y ago
  > lowest price possible You got me until this point ngl
  - Spartan-S63 6y ago
    When you take into account total cost of ownership and the intangible of pain or frustration from other products, Apple typically comes in with the lowest cost. You pay more upfront to pay less (literally and emotionally) later.
  - halotrope 6y ago
    This is what I mean: https://youtu.be/gnU9Vgt8Hmg https://youtu.be/gnU9Vgt8Hmg Sure, the accessoires and e.g ram are steeply overpriced
    - dmitriid 6y ago
      "We don't offer stripped down lousy products" 14 years later: base iMac has two ports (three more + ethernet will cost you $200). Not that it's lousy, but it's definitely stripped down.
shoto_io 6y ago
Oh that’s easy. Focus and take hard decisions that are unpopular in the short term but mostly right in the long term. Examples - first iPhone doesn’t support MMS - cut the headphone plug in new iPhones - stop supporting Adobe Flash - load apps through the App Store only in iOS
- slivanes 6y ago
  We must have a different perspective, all of the above are to the detriment of the consumer (flash, not so much).
  - shoto_io 6y ago
    I don't think they are. They are deliberate choices to not please everyone. It’s product management at its best.
- mlindner 6y ago
  You can go back further: Abandonment of the floppy drive. Abandonment of the CD drive. Abandonment of Firewire.
- the_local_host 6y ago
  It's not easy. Apple does have a consistent "spirit", but it's such a strange combination of idealism and ruthlessness that it's hard to know which aspect(s) anyone is invoking when they mention it. I don't know why that question is getting so many downvotes.
  - shoto_io 6y ago
    Yes you’re right. I should have said: “that’s easy for me” or something like that
justicezyx 5y ago
I think this little thread has shown that the so-called culture and spirit of a organization is largely a myth, or more precisely, a form of brand marketing instead of actual inherent nature of an organization.

Think different.

slt2021 6y ago

extracting as much of "Apple premium" out of brand-loyal customers as possible and keeping that "Apple premium" perception in consumers' minds

halotrope 6y ago

Focus, products instilled with culture, starting with the user experience, attention to detail, cohesive ecosystem, good design, delivering high quality products at the lowest price possible, not shipping things that are not ready.

loloquwowndueo 6y ago
“Quality products at Lowest price possible” you’re probably being sarcastic. Just look at wired AirPods, among the most maligned earbud headphones and quite expensive within their category.
- NationalPark 6y ago
  The $19 EarPods?
  - loloquwowndueo 6y ago
    Yes those! Sorry :)
- FredPret 6y ago
  Airpods are expensive but amazing
haunter 6y ago
> lowest price possible You got me until this point ngl
- Spartan-S63 6y ago
  When you take into account total cost of ownership and the intangible of pain or frustration from other products, Apple typically comes in with the lowest cost. You pay more upfront to pay less (literally and emotionally) later.
- halotrope 6y ago
  This is what I mean: https://youtu.be/gnU9Vgt8Hmg https://youtu.be/gnU9Vgt8Hmg Sure, the accessoires and e.g ram are steeply overpriced
  - dmitriid 6y ago
    "We don't offer stripped down lousy products" 14 years later: base iMac has two ports (three more + ethernet will cost you $200). Not that it's lousy, but it's definitely stripped down.

shoto_io 6y ago

Oh that’s easy. Focus and take hard decisions that are unpopular in the short term but mostly right in the long term. Examples - first iPhone doesn’t support MMS - cut the headphone plug in new iPhones - stop supporting Adobe Flash - load apps through the App Store only in iOS

slivanes 6y ago
We must have a different perspective, all of the above are to the detriment of the consumer (flash, not so much).
- shoto_io 6y ago
  I don't think they are. They are deliberate choices to not please everyone. It’s product management at its best.
mlindner 6y ago
You can go back further: Abandonment of the floppy drive. Abandonment of the CD drive. Abandonment of Firewire.
the_local_host 6y ago
It's not easy. Apple does have a consistent "spirit", but it's such a strange combination of idealism and ruthlessness that it's hard to know which aspect(s) anyone is invoking when they mention it. I don't know why that question is getting so many downvotes.
- shoto_io 6y ago
  Yes you’re right. I should have said: “that’s easy for me” or something like that

justicezyx 5y ago

I think this little thread has shown that the so-called culture and spirit of a organization is largely a myth, or more precisely, a form of brand marketing instead of actual inherent nature of an organization.