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> Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dyst

by qayxc 6y ago

> Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dystopian? Wow. You act as if that's something new :D There's even an actual job for doing just that: it's called an editor. You know, the people who work in media, publishing houses, TV, radio, papers, magazines, that kind of thing. It's what they do. Everywhere. Editing content. Removing comments, changing words, making sure the views represented in the publication match the intentions and policies of the investors and parent organisations, etc. You act as if something is new and evil just because it's done with computers. It isn't. It has been the case for as long as papyrus and cave paintings have been around. Back then it was don't anger the chief/king/Pharao, today it's don't anger the Twitter mob or the hand that feeds you. Same difference. Games are a medium just like magazines or online blogs and comparing blocky dongs in Minecraft with explicit child pornography says a lot about your understanding of "creative expression". Really makes me wonder sometimes.

wernercd 6y ago
There is no parallel between me playing a game where I have the freedom to express myself and me submitting a paper to an editorial review board. Unless you back the idea that every corner of society needs to have the Religion of Woke determining what's "good" and "bad"... and the last thing I think we need is new Crusades with the Knights Wokelar deploying the Holy Creed and woe be the Heathen who goes against the Churches Religion. "You act as if something is new" and you act as if history isn't full of thought police turning into judge, jury and executioners... from the Crusades to the French Revolution to Auschwitz... It's funny how "they are just controlling things for YOUR own good" often turns for the worst... "same difference" Ignorance of history leads to a repeat of history. From book burnings to "we just want to stop racism"... Really makes me wonder as well...
- qayxc 6y ago
  So right to Godwin's Law we go then - yeah. I get the feeling it's not me who is the radical here. There is a difference between wanting to remove content that a company don't want to associate itself with and genocide. For you to even suggest there's a connection says far more about your twisted logic and dysfunctional thought process than mine. Also AI dungeon is a multiplayer game so yeah - YOUR freedom of expression is limited by OTHER players freedom of not being subjected to certain content. If you don't understand that, work on your social skills.
  - Dylan16807 6y ago
    > Also AI dungeon is a multiplayer game so yeah What? No it isn't. Technically there's a "multiplayer" mode but that's fundamentally just people taking turns. Restricting certain kinds of content for that reason is nonsense, akin to restricting the kind of story you can write in google docs because multiple people might have been given access to a document.
  - wernercd 6y ago
    "your freedom is restricted because..." because fragile flowers don't want to get offended or choose to get offended on behalf of other people. All you see is "godwins law" and refuse to acknowledge the parallels scattered throughout history of how these modern day book burnings, witch hunts and mobs with pitch forks turn nasty... and SOMEHOW you are doing that when we live in a world where violent mobs swarm when someone does something that's Evil - so sayeth the religion of woke. The Woke'saders (Modern day Crusaders) have no problem destroying lives - to the point of violence and death... so, yes, pardon me for equating the intolerance, bigotry and hate presented by the Intolerant Tolerant as leading towards similar atrocities that have existed throughout history. Again... focus on godwin and ignore then facts in my messages. That way you can ignore the world around you and you'll be blameless when things continue down this path. You can also join in the fun of destroying the freedom of others in the crusade to control what other people think, say and do.
    - qayxc 6y ago
      So you don't do anything below XK-class end-of-the-world scenarios, so you? Your massive overreaction shows no difference to your perceived enemies. This is a game and the creators want to limit the game world and the actions therein to exclude certain content. This isn't about control over what people think. There are social norms and these change over time. The "facts" in your message are the same kind of facts that your typical Karen shouts into the phone when they call 911 because there's a negro walking through their neighbourhood. Same level of paranoia, same unhinged out of proportion response. When was the last time RMS was literally hunted down by a mob? Because if he wasn't, I have to ask who the real fragile flowers are - the ones that get easily offended or the guys like you who see freedom being destroyed and the 4th Reich rising because a private company wants to remove child pornography from their product? Ridiculous.

by qayxc 6y ago

wernercd 6y ago

There is no parallel between me playing a game where I have the freedom to express myself and me submitting a paper to an editorial review board. Unless you back the idea that every corner of society needs to have the Religion of Woke determining what's "good" and "bad"... and the last thing I think we need is new Crusades with the Knights Wokelar deploying the Holy Creed and woe be the Heathen who goes against the Churches Religion. "You act as if something is new" and you act as if history isn't full of thought police turning into judge, jury and executioners... from the Crusades to the French Revolution to Auschwitz... It's funny how "they are just controlling things for YOUR own good" often turns for the worst... "same difference" Ignorance of history leads to a repeat of history. From book burnings to "we just want to stop racism"... Really makes me wonder as well...

qayxc 6y ago
So right to Godwin's Law we go then - yeah. I get the feeling it's not me who is the radical here. There is a difference between wanting to remove content that a company don't want to associate itself with and genocide. For you to even suggest there's a connection says far more about your twisted logic and dysfunctional thought process than mine. Also AI dungeon is a multiplayer game so yeah - YOUR freedom of expression is limited by OTHER players freedom of not being subjected to certain content. If you don't understand that, work on your social skills.
- Dylan16807 6y ago
  > Also AI dungeon is a multiplayer game so yeah What? No it isn't. Technically there's a "multiplayer" mode but that's fundamentally just people taking turns. Restricting certain kinds of content for that reason is nonsense, akin to restricting the kind of story you can write in google docs because multiple people might have been given access to a document.
- wernercd 6y ago
  "your freedom is restricted because..." because fragile flowers don't want to get offended or choose to get offended on behalf of other people. All you see is "godwins law" and refuse to acknowledge the parallels scattered throughout history of how these modern day book burnings, witch hunts and mobs with pitch forks turn nasty... and SOMEHOW you are doing that when we live in a world where violent mobs swarm when someone does something that's Evil - so sayeth the religion of woke. The Woke'saders (Modern day Crusaders) have no problem destroying lives - to the point of violence and death... so, yes, pardon me for equating the intolerance, bigotry and hate presented by the Intolerant Tolerant as leading towards similar atrocities that have existed throughout history. Again... focus on godwin and ignore then facts in my messages. That way you can ignore the world around you and you'll be blameless when things continue down this path. You can also join in the fun of destroying the freedom of others in the crusade to control what other people think, say and do.
  - qayxc 6y ago
    So you don't do anything below XK-class end-of-the-world scenarios, so you? Your massive overreaction shows no difference to your perceived enemies. This is a game and the creators want to limit the game world and the actions therein to exclude certain content. This isn't about control over what people think. There are social norms and these change over time. The "facts" in your message are the same kind of facts that your typical Karen shouts into the phone when they call 911 because there's a negro walking through their neighbourhood. Same level of paranoia, same unhinged out of proportion response. When was the last time RMS was literally hunted down by a mob? Because if he wasn't, I have to ask who the real fragile flowers are - the ones that get easily offended or the guys like you who see freedom being destroyed and the 4th Reich rising because a private company wants to remove child pornography from their product? Ridiculous.