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> if there are ads resources in the page Please read the full comment (or preferably, the standard) before spreading FUD.

falcolas 5y ago
Whether ads are being loaded is being determined by an opaque, ever-changing algorithm implemented in a closed source browser. We have no way to verify that this is how it's actually working, or when it will change. That doesn't even include how a good majority of the internet is monetized by ads, often Google's ads. It's simply safest to assume that every page will be included.
- mdaniel 5y ago
  I don't think calling Chrome a closed source browser is accurate unless you have a citation showing that Chromium is missing this code Microsoft Edge is a closed source browser, for comparison
  - falcolas 5y ago
    Chrome is a closed-source fork of Chromium that applies numerous proprietary patches to Chromium. There's no way to tell what has been modified in that process (short of decompilation, et.al.). Pretty much the same process that Microsoft takes with Edge, really.
  - nerdponx 5y ago
    I don't think calling Chrome a closed source browser is accurate unless you have a citation showing that Chromium is missing this code That's completely backwards. You would need some evidence showing that Chrome does not include proprietary patches, otherwise you pretty much have to conclude that it's closed-source, even if it includes a large % of code from an open-source product.
matkoniecz 5y ago
Is it well defined what "ads resources" is?
- delroth 5y ago
  It doesn't seem to be defined in the standard, but it's partially documented in Chromium's docs how they determine what is an ad resource: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/ad_tagging.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs... https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/components/subresource_filter/README.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/components/subresource_filter/FILTER_LIST_GENERATION.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... This seems to indicate the authoritative source of truth is EasyList. On my current machine, the list seems to be stored in "~/.config/google-chrome/Subresource Filter/Unindexed\ Rules/9.22.0" and should be easily inspectable. I don't know if I've missed some documentation pointers related to this.
  - matkoniecz 5y ago
    It is kind of hilarious that they use antitracking resource as part of their new malware infrastructure.

falcolas 5y ago

Whether ads are being loaded is being determined by an opaque, ever-changing algorithm implemented in a closed source browser. We have no way to verify that this is how it's actually working, or when it will change. That doesn't even include how a good majority of the internet is monetized by ads, often Google's ads. It's simply safest to assume that every page will be included.

mdaniel 5y ago
I don't think calling Chrome a closed source browser is accurate unless you have a citation showing that Chromium is missing this code Microsoft Edge is a closed source browser, for comparison
- falcolas 5y ago
  Chrome is a closed-source fork of Chromium that applies numerous proprietary patches to Chromium. There's no way to tell what has been modified in that process (short of decompilation, et.al.). Pretty much the same process that Microsoft takes with Edge, really.
- nerdponx 5y ago
  I don't think calling Chrome a closed source browser is accurate unless you have a citation showing that Chromium is missing this code That's completely backwards. You would need some evidence showing that Chrome does not include proprietary patches, otherwise you pretty much have to conclude that it's closed-source, even if it includes a large % of code from an open-source product.

matkoniecz 5y ago

Is it well defined what "ads resources" is?

delroth 5y ago
It doesn't seem to be defined in the standard, but it's partially documented in Chromium's docs how they determine what is an ad resource: https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs/ad_tagging.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src/+/master/docs... https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/components/subresource_filter/README.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/components/subresource_filter/FILTER_LIST_GENERATION.md https://chromium.googlesource.com/chromium/src.git/+/master/... This seems to indicate the authoritative source of truth is EasyList. On my current machine, the list seems to be stored in "~/.config/google-chrome/Subresource Filter/Unindexed\ Rules/9.22.0" and should be easily inspectable. I don't know if I've missed some documentation pointers related to this.
- matkoniecz 5y ago
  It is kind of hilarious that they use antitracking resource as part of their new malware infrastructure.