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> So I don't see how they're "damned if they don't". The specifics of their approach don't even matter - all it takes is one random Twitter user or media outle

by qayxc 6y ago

> So I don't see how they're "damned if they don't". The specifics of their approach don't even matter - all it takes is one random Twitter user or media outlet to report on "immoral" output generated by someone to damage the brand image. That's what they want to avoid and that's why they are trying to take preventive measures.

contravariant 6y ago
If they think that blocking certain words is going to prevent that from happening then well, good luck with that.
- jerf 6y ago
  It does prevent the news article from saying "And they knew about it and they did nothing!" I'd be very worried about this in their shoes and acting very similarly.
  - ThalesX 6y ago
    But then don't you have to answer to all the media queries? "They knew about this problem, they even attempted to half ass fix it, but it's obviously their mind is on the subscriber money, and not preventing blatant CHILD EXPLOITATION!" Then you throw some more money at a yet unsolvable task, and then in 2 years, when some other outlet gets triggered, you have to defend yourself once again. "They've know about this problem for 5 years and it's still rampant in their community! Shame on you JERF INC.!"
    - jerf 6y ago
      You're not entirely wrong, but if you make the story unattractive enough, the media will go do a hatchet job on someone else. They've only got so much time and they've got a lot of outrage to drum up^W^W^W^Wengagement metrics to drive, so you jst put enough in to try to make them hit somebody else instead.
wernercd 6y ago
People make penis shaped blocks in Minecraft all day long... and that doesn't tarnish the Minecraft brand. Why? because people understand that it's not Minecraft the company doing so - or condoning the practice. And that's just scratching the surface of what can be done in games like that which allow "creative expression". Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dystopian?
- qayxc 6y ago
  > Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dystopian? Wow. You act as if that's something new :D There's even an actual job for doing just that: it's called an editor. You know, the people who work in media, publishing houses, TV, radio, papers, magazines, that kind of thing. It's what they do. Everywhere. Editing content. Removing comments, changing words, making sure the views represented in the publication match the intentions and policies of the investors and parent organisations, etc. You act as if something is new and evil just because it's done with computers. It isn't. It has been the case for as long as papyrus and cave paintings have been around. Back then it was don't anger the chief/king/Pharao, today it's don't anger the Twitter mob or the hand that feeds you. Same difference. Games are a medium just like magazines or online blogs and comparing blocky dongs in Minecraft with explicit child pornography says a lot about your understanding of "creative expression". Really makes me wonder sometimes.
  - wernercd 6y ago
    There is no parallel between me playing a game where I have the freedom to express myself and me submitting a paper to an editorial review board. Unless you back the idea that every corner of society needs to have the Religion of Woke determining what's "good" and "bad"... and the last thing I think we need is new Crusades with the Knights Wokelar deploying the Holy Creed and woe be the Heathen who goes against the Churches Religion. "You act as if something is new" and you act as if history isn't full of thought police turning into judge, jury and executioners... from the Crusades to the French Revolution to Auschwitz... It's funny how "they are just controlling things for YOUR own good" often turns for the worst... "same difference" Ignorance of history leads to a repeat of history. From book burnings to "we just want to stop racism"... Really makes me wonder as well...
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by qayxc 6y ago

contravariant 6y ago

If they think that blocking certain words is going to prevent that from happening then well, good luck with that.

jerf 6y ago
It does prevent the news article from saying "And they knew about it and they did nothing!" I'd be very worried about this in their shoes and acting very similarly.
- ThalesX 6y ago
  But then don't you have to answer to all the media queries? "They knew about this problem, they even attempted to half ass fix it, but it's obviously their mind is on the subscriber money, and not preventing blatant CHILD EXPLOITATION!" Then you throw some more money at a yet unsolvable task, and then in 2 years, when some other outlet gets triggered, you have to defend yourself once again. "They've know about this problem for 5 years and it's still rampant in their community! Shame on you JERF INC.!"
  - jerf 6y ago
    You're not entirely wrong, but if you make the story unattractive enough, the media will go do a hatchet job on someone else. They've only got so much time and they've got a lot of outrage to drum up^W^W^W^Wengagement metrics to drive, so you jst put enough in to try to make them hit somebody else instead.

wernercd 6y ago

People make penis shaped blocks in Minecraft all day long... and that doesn't tarnish the Minecraft brand. Why? because people understand that it's not Minecraft the company doing so - or condoning the practice. And that's just scratching the surface of what can be done in games like that which allow "creative expression". Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dystopian?

qayxc 6y ago
> Why would you think that this company needs to Thought Police their gamers when thousands of others are able to host creativity based games without being dystopian? Wow. You act as if that's something new :D There's even an actual job for doing just that: it's called an editor. You know, the people who work in media, publishing houses, TV, radio, papers, magazines, that kind of thing. It's what they do. Everywhere. Editing content. Removing comments, changing words, making sure the views represented in the publication match the intentions and policies of the investors and parent organisations, etc. You act as if something is new and evil just because it's done with computers. It isn't. It has been the case for as long as papyrus and cave paintings have been around. Back then it was don't anger the chief/king/Pharao, today it's don't anger the Twitter mob or the hand that feeds you. Same difference. Games are a medium just like magazines or online blogs and comparing blocky dongs in Minecraft with explicit child pornography says a lot about your understanding of "creative expression". Really makes me wonder sometimes.
- wernercd 6y ago
  There is no parallel between me playing a game where I have the freedom to express myself and me submitting a paper to an editorial review board. Unless you back the idea that every corner of society needs to have the Religion of Woke determining what's "good" and "bad"... and the last thing I think we need is new Crusades with the Knights Wokelar deploying the Holy Creed and woe be the Heathen who goes against the Churches Religion. "You act as if something is new" and you act as if history isn't full of thought police turning into judge, jury and executioners... from the Crusades to the French Revolution to Auschwitz... It's funny how "they are just controlling things for YOUR own good" often turns for the worst... "same difference" Ignorance of history leads to a repeat of history. From book burnings to "we just want to stop racism"... Really makes me wonder as well...

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