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No fucking way. Cable TV channels had as much ads as they had content. Youtube is around 2x1min ad per 30 min video, longer ones are skippable and you get no ad

by m00x 6y ago

No fucking way. Cable TV channels had as much ads as they had content. Youtube is around 2x1min ad per 30 min video, longer ones are skippable and you get no ads if you pay for $15/m for it. You paid cable TV $90/m for 12-15 min of ads on 30 min shows.

hctaw 6y ago
Cable TV has 12-15 minutes of ads per hour depending on network. It's been that way for a very long time, but slightly on the rise for the last few years.
elymar 6y ago
Aside from noise cancelling headphones and a roomba, paying for YouTube to avoid ads is the best quality of life improving purchase I have made.
- snypher 6y ago
  Youtube Vanced. Google can't expect my $10 when they take all my data for free.
  - Crash0v3rid3 6y ago
    So you’re willing to hurt creators earnings because Google has some data on you?
    - wallwarp 6y ago
      A lot of creators have multiple revenue streams that one can support (merch, patreon, affiliate links). Not watching youtube ads does not have to mean you are hurting creators.
      - missedthecue 6y ago
        Not watching YouTube ads means they get less money. Yes, there are still alternatives for them to eek out some revenue, but they are making less than if you just watched the ad or got YT premium
        winrid 6y ago
        So you just pay more on Patreon right?
        wallwarp 6y ago
        This is anecdotal, but it seems like most career youtube creators are only relying on youtube ad revenue for a small portion of their total income. Video claims and unreliable monetization have long plagued youtube so it makes sense for creators to look to things like brand deals and patreon for the majority of their income. I’d much rather not watch ads and then compensate for it by supporting them through some other means.
        reciprocity 6y ago
        We shouldn't want to want people watch advertising. It's mental real estate that doesn't need to be there.
    - chmln 6y ago
      Yes.
    - RGamma 6y ago
      Not parent. The few YT channels that I know of and that produce worthwhile stuff are either unmonetized or can be supported via merch or directly, so no harm done blocking ads. Especially now that there's ads even on videos by unmonetized channels and YTers who do and share shit because they authentically enjoy it. You know, those that made the site worthwhile in the first place in 200x. And the mind-crushing amount of clickbait and spam by "professional content creators"? Well, that can go the way of the dodo.
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briefcomment 6y ago
Youtube is probably varying the rate of ads displayed for each user based on some factors. I was watching an hour long interview and was shocked that I was served a 30 second ad every 3-4 minutes. I scanned the comments for outrage, but there were no negative comments. I think YT may have increased my ad rate because I was using a VPN. I think they will use ads as a form of tax, to discourage certain behavior, and even certain content. I think I notice this more on libertarian leaning videos (although I definitely haven't done any rigorous analysis re that). Can't wait for the day everything is decentraly hosted, and we access it through whatever portal we want.
- reportingsjr 6y ago
  > I think they will use ads as a form of tax, to discourage certain behavior, and even certain content. I think I notice this more on libertarian leaning videos (although I definitely haven't done any rigorous analysis re that). That is an extraordinary claim, and needs some extraordinary evidence to back it up.
  - briefcomment 6y ago
    I watched a Jordan Peterson video on Dr. Oz's official channel, and I got an ad every 3 - 4 minutes. What do you make of that evidence (given I'm not lying)? None of the comments acknowledged it.
    - snypher 6y ago
      I'm not sure if you mean that's a lot of ads or not but I thought creators chose where the ads are played.
      - briefcomment 6y ago
        I thought so too, but it's been so periodic and so often that I thought it couldn't be the content creator. The fact that no one complains in the comments makes me think there are other options as well, and not ones that the content creator controls.
FlashBlaze 6y ago
I'm from India and YouTube Premium is less than $3/m for family plan here. Definitely worth it

by m00x 6y ago

hctaw 6y ago

Cable TV has 12-15 minutes of ads per hour depending on network. It's been that way for a very long time, but slightly on the rise for the last few years.

elymar 6y ago

Aside from noise cancelling headphones and a roomba, paying for YouTube to avoid ads is the best quality of life improving purchase I have made.

snypher 6y ago
Youtube Vanced. Google can't expect my $10 when they take all my data for free.
- Crash0v3rid3 6y ago
  So you’re willing to hurt creators earnings because Google has some data on you?
  - wallwarp 6y ago
    A lot of creators have multiple revenue streams that one can support (merch, patreon, affiliate links). Not watching youtube ads does not have to mean you are hurting creators.
    - missedthecue 6y ago
      Not watching YouTube ads means they get less money. Yes, there are still alternatives for them to eek out some revenue, but they are making less than if you just watched the ad or got YT premium
      - winrid 6y ago
        So you just pay more on Patreon right?
      - wallwarp 6y ago
        This is anecdotal, but it seems like most career youtube creators are only relying on youtube ad revenue for a small portion of their total income. Video claims and unreliable monetization have long plagued youtube so it makes sense for creators to look to things like brand deals and patreon for the majority of their income. I’d much rather not watch ads and then compensate for it by supporting them through some other means.
      - reciprocity 6y ago
        We shouldn't want to want people watch advertising. It's mental real estate that doesn't need to be there.
  - chmln 6y ago
    Yes.
  - RGamma 6y ago
    Not parent. The few YT channels that I know of and that produce worthwhile stuff are either unmonetized or can be supported via merch or directly, so no harm done blocking ads. Especially now that there's ads even on videos by unmonetized channels and YTers who do and share shit because they authentically enjoy it. You know, those that made the site worthwhile in the first place in 200x. And the mind-crushing amount of clickbait and spam by "professional content creators"? Well, that can go the way of the dodo.
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briefcomment 6y ago

Youtube is probably varying the rate of ads displayed for each user based on some factors. I was watching an hour long interview and was shocked that I was served a 30 second ad every 3-4 minutes. I scanned the comments for outrage, but there were no negative comments. I think YT may have increased my ad rate because I was using a VPN. I think they will use ads as a form of tax, to discourage certain behavior, and even certain content. I think I notice this more on libertarian leaning videos (although I definitely haven't done any rigorous analysis re that). Can't wait for the day everything is decentraly hosted, and we access it through whatever portal we want.

reportingsjr 6y ago
> I think they will use ads as a form of tax, to discourage certain behavior, and even certain content. I think I notice this more on libertarian leaning videos (although I definitely haven't done any rigorous analysis re that). That is an extraordinary claim, and needs some extraordinary evidence to back it up.
- briefcomment 6y ago
  I watched a Jordan Peterson video on Dr. Oz's official channel, and I got an ad every 3 - 4 minutes. What do you make of that evidence (given I'm not lying)? None of the comments acknowledged it.
  - snypher 6y ago
    I'm not sure if you mean that's a lot of ads or not but I thought creators chose where the ads are played.
    - briefcomment 6y ago
      I thought so too, but it's been so periodic and so often that I thought it couldn't be the content creator. The fact that no one complains in the comments makes me think there are other options as well, and not ones that the content creator controls.

FlashBlaze 6y ago

I'm from India and YouTube Premium is less than $3/m for family plan here. Definitely worth it