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A massive company that makes overpriced, low-quality athletic products that double as status symbols, which they manufacture overseas (often using child labor)

by JPKab 6y ago

A massive company that makes overpriced, low-quality athletic products that double as status symbols, which they manufacture overseas (often using child labor) but then sell for massive markups in the US, Europe, etc. They have an extremely aggressive "woke" presence in their advertising, because as long as you care about social justice for your targeted customers, who cares that "people of color" in the developing world are being paid slave wages to create your products. You probably know who I'm talking about now, but I'm not going to name them.

darig 6y ago
you spelled "nike" wrong.
medicineman 6y ago
Nike. Hell, I'd do anything for a downvote.
Elof 6y ago
Seems like your brother can probably sue for damages if this is the whole story
- JPKab 6y ago
  He was told his case was legitimate, but the cost was too much for him to afford. Also, large corporations have massive legal teams. The narrative that is widely believed is that "the cost of making an accusation is so high that nobody would do it, so automatically believe accusers" and they pretend that there is no cost to being accused. It's an oversimplification and ignores the game theory involved in these things.
  - darig 6y ago
    You're ignoring the game theory of abusers exploiting the cost of making an accusation such that they never get accused.
- donnythecroc 6y ago
  Yes clearly, if he has corroborating evidence. Also, it's easy to get an unfair dismissal lawyer on compensation share I.e. they take 40% of any compensation as their fee. Plus if it's a major corp and your brother has evidence then they'll usually have a budget/insurance for paying off these types of claims.
baryphonic 6y ago
Sounds like your brother believed in something and sacrificed everything. If I were him, I might hire an employment lawyer and sue the shit out of them. Ya know, "Just do it."
- JPKab 6y ago
  The cost was hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the company would have fought it for about 3 years, based on the advice of the wrongful termination specialist he consulted. He would have been bankrupted, and did what most people do, and just moved on.
  - PascLeRasc 6y ago
    So now you see why most women who are sexually assaulted don't report it. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
    - ummonk 6y ago
      Seriously! The justice system is often ineffective for delivering justice both to victims of sexual abuse and victims of false accusations.
    - tomp 6y ago
      Can you explain the reasoning a bit more? JPKab's argument is that the estimated costs were $100k+. In my uneducated eyes, the estimated cost of reporting a crime is 30 minutes trip to the police station and filling some report / talking to someone, maybe 2 hours of your time? Essentially trivial.
      - orwin 6y ago
        Ok, my sister was raped by her boss, was found in her appartment three days later my father, who immediately called a lawyer (female, specialized in criminal law). She told my sister that since they were only two in the kitchen with no surveillance camera, she couldn't sue but only report (its called "main courante" in my country) and "hope" that another girl is raped before 2039 and report it. The policeman concurred, nothing to be done. I still shout "rapist owned" each time i pass his business, as do my brother and my father, my sister privately shared her story with his daughter on facebook last year (his daughter is one year younger than my sister, the creep), basically destroying their relationship, and the cooking school my sister went to directly called all female student and ex-student to tell them to avoid his restaurant. I also scraped social networks (only public data, nothing illegal) for his activities two years ago but only found business contacts. Each of them still received a nice email though. I will move back next month, so i will continue my shouting campaign harder after the pandemic end and hope his business can't survive covid. Since his restaurant will be between my place and the place i keep my boat, i'm pretty sure i can be successful.
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by JPKab 6y ago

darig 6y ago

you spelled "nike" wrong.

medicineman 6y ago

Nike. Hell, I'd do anything for a downvote.

Elof 6y ago

Seems like your brother can probably sue for damages if this is the whole story

JPKab 6y ago
He was told his case was legitimate, but the cost was too much for him to afford. Also, large corporations have massive legal teams. The narrative that is widely believed is that "the cost of making an accusation is so high that nobody would do it, so automatically believe accusers" and they pretend that there is no cost to being accused. It's an oversimplification and ignores the game theory involved in these things.
- darig 6y ago
  You're ignoring the game theory of abusers exploiting the cost of making an accusation such that they never get accused.
donnythecroc 6y ago
Yes clearly, if he has corroborating evidence. Also, it's easy to get an unfair dismissal lawyer on compensation share I.e. they take 40% of any compensation as their fee. Plus if it's a major corp and your brother has evidence then they'll usually have a budget/insurance for paying off these types of claims.

baryphonic 6y ago

Sounds like your brother believed in something and sacrificed everything. If I were him, I might hire an employment lawyer and sue the shit out of them. Ya know, "Just do it."

JPKab 6y ago
The cost was hundreds of thousands of dollars, and the company would have fought it for about 3 years, based on the advice of the wrongful termination specialist he consulted. He would have been bankrupted, and did what most people do, and just moved on.
- PascLeRasc 6y ago
  So now you see why most women who are sexually assaulted don't report it. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system https://www.rainn.org/statistics/criminal-justice-system
  - ummonk 6y ago
    Seriously! The justice system is often ineffective for delivering justice both to victims of sexual abuse and victims of false accusations.
  - tomp 6y ago
    Can you explain the reasoning a bit more? JPKab's argument is that the estimated costs were $100k+. In my uneducated eyes, the estimated cost of reporting a crime is 30 minutes trip to the police station and filling some report / talking to someone, maybe 2 hours of your time? Essentially trivial.
    - orwin 6y ago
      Ok, my sister was raped by her boss, was found in her appartment three days later my father, who immediately called a lawyer (female, specialized in criminal law). She told my sister that since they were only two in the kitchen with no surveillance camera, she couldn't sue but only report (its called "main courante" in my country) and "hope" that another girl is raped before 2039 and report it. The policeman concurred, nothing to be done. I still shout "rapist owned" each time i pass his business, as do my brother and my father, my sister privately shared her story with his daughter on facebook last year (his daughter is one year younger than my sister, the creep), basically destroying their relationship, and the cooking school my sister went to directly called all female student and ex-student to tell them to avoid his restaurant. I also scraped social networks (only public data, nothing illegal) for his activities two years ago but only found business contacts. Each of them still received a nice email though. I will move back next month, so i will continue my shouting campaign harder after the pandemic end and hope his business can't survive covid. Since his restaurant will be between my place and the place i keep my boat, i'm pretty sure i can be successful.

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