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I feel like things have felt pretty good in the PC world since NVMe SSDs and approximately Sandy Bridge. But, I do agree that there is a lot of jank in softwar

I feel like things have felt pretty good in the PC world since NVMe SSDs and approximately Sandy Bridge. But, I do agree that there is a lot of jank in software that we write these days. Over the weekend I started writing an application that uses glfx + dear imgui, running on a 360Hz monitor. The lack of latency was incredible. I think it's something that people don't even know is possible, so they don't even attempt to get it. But once you know, everything else feels kind of shitty. This comment box in a web browser just feels ... off.

disgruntledphd2 6y ago
Emacs has given me this feeling for a while. Even over a remote connection that is super slow, I am supremely confident in every keystroke getting to the server and doing what I want. (Except for lsp/company which occasionally just messes up everything).
legulere 6y ago
There are some hard usability limits that feel like the performance has stagnated or getting worse: when resizing Relayouting needs to be faster than the time for one frame (16ms usually). On Windows seemingly no software manages to do that.
jkestner 6y ago
Speed is a feature, said well: https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/ https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/
bscphil 6y ago
> I feel like things have felt pretty good in the PC world since NVMe SSDs and approximately Sandy Bridge. Agree, and I would add that devs on some platforms have not been as thorough about using (or abusing?) all that new power. I've been able to continue use a Sandy Bridge laptop from 2011 - it'll turn 10 years old in a couple of months - because most apps on Linux still have so little complexity that you could run them on a computer from 2006. Electron-based stuff is not the norm. Adding an SSD a few years ago has been my only significant hardware upgrade. Meanwhile, Macbook Pros that came out two years after my laptop was built can't even be updated to the latest version of macOS, before you even get to the issue of software jank.
moneywoes 6y ago
Are nvmes noticeable over say a sata ssd

disgruntledphd2 6y ago

Emacs has given me this feeling for a while. Even over a remote connection that is super slow, I am supremely confident in every keystroke getting to the server and doing what I want. (Except for lsp/company which occasionally just messes up everything).

legulere 6y ago

There are some hard usability limits that feel like the performance has stagnated or getting worse: when resizing Relayouting needs to be faster than the time for one frame (16ms usually). On Windows seemingly no software manages to do that.

jkestner 6y ago

Speed is a feature, said well: https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/ https://craigmod.com/essays/fast_software/

bscphil 6y ago

> I feel like things have felt pretty good in the PC world since NVMe SSDs and approximately Sandy Bridge. Agree, and I would add that devs on some platforms have not been as thorough about using (or abusing?) all that new power. I've been able to continue use a Sandy Bridge laptop from 2011 - it'll turn 10 years old in a couple of months - because most apps on Linux still have so little complexity that you could run them on a computer from 2006. Electron-based stuff is not the norm. Adding an SSD a few years ago has been my only significant hardware upgrade. Meanwhile, Macbook Pros that came out two years after my laptop was built can't even be updated to the latest version of macOS, before you even get to the issue of software jank.

moneywoes 6y ago

Are nvmes noticeable over say a sata ssd